Ok, time to make some suggestions. At this point i don′t have any but i′m sure you guys do.

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Reason why it fit in the Fallout world:

Two guns that come to mind is the British made sten gun and American grease gun, both weapons could be made in a few hours, if you know what you were doing, from stamped metal parts. During the second world war, you had British sten guns being build across Europe by resistance groups. You can now even find terrorist groups today making these weapons and using them on coalition forces.
It would not be surprising that even in the fall out world these guns could be made, even in the waste land, and still mas produced in large numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun

The American M14 battle rifle
also early Versions of the AR15 as seen in fall out new vegas with the service rifle.
and the British Lee enfield smle would not look out of place in the fall out world, you could even make a semi automatic version instead of it being bolt action.

and ofc the Ak47 / Chinese assault rifle.

also light and heavy machine guns, the BAR, browning 30cal, browning 50cal, stuff like that.

All these weapons would fit into the fall out world no problem, and each could me made and mass produced, old manuals could be found in game, and the two sub-machine guns could be the most common out of all the weapons, since their low cost to make, and ease of build.

Ok, since i found this link searching on weapons between 1920-1950 i post it here and then make specific suggestions later.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_weapons

MAN, I have sooooo many weapon ideas, but to spare all of you I'll only suggest one.

This one's a big gun. How bout a giant heavy duty shotgun; It would e sort of like a graqeshot. It would use standard shotgun shells as ammunition. It would fire an incredibly wide spread of shells, and it would have a kickback effect on you and your enemy. It's downside would be it's poor range and it's very long pump-action time. It would be good for combat in narrow corridors, or defending a point (i.e defending a doorway). Well, here it is

Name: Shredder
Stats: Damage 97 (close range) 45 (medium range) 18 (long range) special effect: Knockback effect (applies to both you and your target)

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If gamesas lacks that much inspiration that they add any AK version, or a Chi-com copy of an AK, then I have no faith in this game...

I want them to stay true to the FO history and style, excluding F3, and rather come up with their own concepts rather than just 12-year-olds-dream-weapon-that-he-is-using-in-COD... There are lots of cool concepts floating around from Fo, Fo2 and VB, which I'm sure that gamesas is well aware of.

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If gamesas lacks that much inspiration that they add any AK version, or a Chi-com copy of an AK, then I have no faith in this game...

I want them to stay true to the FO history and style, excluding F3, and rather come up with their own concepts rather than just 12-year-olds-dream-weapon-that-he-is-using-in-COD... There are lots of cool concepts floating around from Fo, Fo2 and VB, which I'm sure that gamesas is well aware of.

Here, here. Another drunk conquistador conquering the governor's ball...

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If gamesas lacks that much inspiration that they add any AK version, or a Chi-com copy of an AK, then I have no faith in this game...

I want them to stay true to the FO history and style, excluding F3, and rather come up with their own concepts rather than just 12-year-olds-dream-weapon-that-he-is-using-in-COD... There are lots of cool concepts floating around from Fo, Fo2 and VB, which I'm sure that gamesas is well aware of.
wait what?

It has nothing to do with lack of inspiration, the weapons was developed 1947, used a couple of years later, its an extremely most popular gun because it is very durable and will almost always work for you, also it's very cheap and easy to produce. So this weapon has all rights to be in the game and has nothing to do with copy-pasting every other game out there, it's just used because it's one of the (if not the) most popular weapon in the world and for a very good reason.

Actually, can I just quote you again:

If gamesas lacks that much inspiration that they add any AK version, or a Chi-com copy of an AK, then I have no faith in this game...

What weapon do you think the Assault rifle is in fallout?

Ye, its an AK::::
The AK-112 was an old military model of supposedly Soviet origin that was in service during the early 21st century.

So according to you the game is already ruined and uninspired?

Keep in mind tho that the AK-47 that c.williams is referring to is of Chinese origin, and given that the U.S. was at war with China in FO, it would be highly unlikely to find that particular weapon in the U.S. There's not exactly a plethora of them in the US now. Also, aside from being labeled as a soviet AK in the description, the in-game rifle has very little resemblance to any known AK aside from the wooden stock.

On a side note, if they use actual weapons, and not fictional ones, it won't be long before there are gun gurus crying foul because a bolt is out of place or the rate of fire is not high enough or any other number of issues which might creep up. I think the best solution is to stick to fictional weapons, which obviously an AK-112 is.

Here's an idea
Name: Electric Rifle
Stats: 10-15 dmg, 10 shots per SEC, can cause "stun" for 3 seconds
Description: Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle. A prototype of the rifle used in the popular novels.
How it fits: Novels were popular around the 1950's era, plus it has that futuristic appeal to it.
(Who can figure it out first? )

Did that war take place in China or US?


Always liked this one.

Name: M1919 Browning machine gun
Stats: Damage: 25 - 35. Attack modes: Full Burst (Burst rounds:15), Burst of 5.(Burst rounds:5).
Discription: Medium machine gun
Reason why it fit in the Fallout world: The M1919 Browning is a .30 caliber medium machine gun that was widely used during the 20th century. It was used as a light infantry, coaxial, mounted, aircraft, and anti-aircraft machine gun by the U.S. and many other countries, especially during World War II.

hows about a rail gun ,and no i dont mean a railway rifle i mean a weapon that uses mag lev technology . its a frictionless propulsion system it can generate heat due to electrical energy being used but theoretically the weapons barrel wouldnt wear out think japanese high speed trains now get a series of ring magnets jam em down a pipe a couple of fission batteries the stock from a .50 cal gpmg and some uranium plenty laying about in vaults id bet , make the ammo out of that on a lathe that you convienently also find in a vault rip the scope from a snipers rifle slap that on and you got yourself a .50 cal radio active super heated super sonic projectile firing bad boy that melts a large hole through anything in its path . the benefit to this design would be no powder is needed no muzzle flash and no bright green trace of plasma giving your position away to your enemy /prey , and throw in a surpressor just for good measure .
stuff all this plasma pew pew nonsense have a big fat KERSPLODELY rifle and take out a pack of death claws in ya jim jams . EAGLES MAY FLY HIGH, BUT WEASLES DONT GET svckED INTO JET ENGINES

.. a blunder buss? Well I guess we're just a couple of problem solvers

AK-47 is not a chinese weapon, not in fallout timeline as well, it was developed by the russians before our timeline split apart, or ~right at the time when it did split.

Also AK is a wide array of weapons (AK = automatkarbin, or in english - assault rifle, could also translate to automatic carbine, but assault rifle is the usual term in english).
Like the M16 is an assault rifle (AK), FN FAL is also one.

So AK is not a specific set of guns (well technically they are xD), they embody a huge assortment of guns, of the AK (assault rifle) type.
Assault Rifles

AK-47 is not a chinese weapon, not in fallout timeline as well, it was developed by the russians before our timeline split apart, or ~right at the time when it did split.

Also AK is a wide array of weapons (AK = automatkarbin, or in english - assault rifle, could also translate to automatic carbine, but assault rifle is the usual term in english).
Like the M16 is an assault rifle (AK), FN FAL is also one.

So AK is not a specific set of guns (well technically they are xD), they embody a huge assortment of guns, of the AK (assault rifle) type.
Assault Rifles

Yes, but he specifically pointed out a Chinese AK. I honestly coudn't tell you who invented it, I just know China and southeast Asia made it popular. And whether you meant to or not, I think you just justified why any weapon could have an AK designation in Fallout and not have to be an AK-47 ripoff.

To be clear:

I'm talking about the visuals of the weapon here. The AK 112 doesn't look anything like the pos that was in F3.
For all I care, they can make a weapon called AK-2000, as long as it doesn't look like an AK 47.

Besides, didn't China use the SKS until the late 50s\early 60s?

I would like to see some modern Companies doing Futuristic weapons. I liked how Winchester made the Plasma Caster, totally different from the Lever Action rifles they are famous for.

Name: DOOR DESTROYER.
Stats: Special round for shotguns; Kills and injures like dynamite, blows up doors.
Description: Normal shotgun rounds.
Reason why it fit in the Fallout world: Because REAL shotgun rounds do destroy doors.
Note: There is a mod for this, but I never could make it work. Really not sure WHY…

If I were to suggest a weapon, it would have to be another energy weapon. Still, I think that additional ammunition, such as incendiary and explosive, would be fine.

Here's an idea
Name: Electric Rifle
Stats: 10-15 dmg, 10 shots per SEC, can cause "stun" for 3 seconds
Description: Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle. A prototype of the rifle used in the popular novels.
How it fits: Novels were popular around the 1950's era, plus it has that futuristic appeal to it.

I'm actually not so sure about that one. I doubt gamesas would go that far.

And the idea of an AK is somewhat tempting, but use a Red Army weapon, for sure, maybe a PPsh?

For me, though,it would have to be... a unique camouflaged plasma. Think A3-21, only with different properties and ammunition. The damage is amped up from a regular plasma and is more unique in design, but the accuracy is lowered. Perhaps include another alien weapon... I just don't give a...

Actually TASER’s already exist.
There was (for a short while at least) another weapon system that used some sort of supra-intense green energy beam (not quite a laser, but a Hell of a lot more than a green lens on a flashlight) that did something very much like that. I think it got profiled on FutureWeapons once being used by a SWAT Team.
Why wouldn’t it be possible that the same people who finally perfected man-portable rail guns could perfect an energy-based stun weapon.

Hi, just to clarify your AK47 X chinese assault rifle discussion and generally to explain a few basics about military rifles to the broad public
AK 47 was developed by Kalaschnikov in Russia as a "new generation rifle", chambered in the new warszaw pakt standard calibre 7.62x39. He inspired himself by the german STG 44, the first assault rifle in the world, allthought he had developed a new bolt and receiver mechanism. SKS simonov and other single shot, often bolt action rifles should be replaced by this new cheap, mass produced (stamped) carbine.
Yes, according to the actual rifle classification, the AK 47 is an assoult carbine due to the leght of the barrel. M 16,M 4, ar15, etc are all assoault rifles, but the FN Fal is rather a Battle rifle due to the caliber 7.62x59. Only the aussies have produced them in full auto and used them in the Vietnam war - but it was almost impossible to handle them in full auto. An PPSH is basically an long barelled machine pistol due to the caliber 7.62x25mm.
The chinese produced most of the AK47 in the world (or their copy), they have been equiped with russion sks for a long time thought - as somebody has mentioned before, i dont know if these were produced in china, but i think they have been bought from the russians as they have been replacing them.
Its probably the cheapest rifle you might buy now, allthought there is a lot of AK in the us too, because they are really cheap and the ammunition is the cheapest too, second only to .22 LR.

the best AK 47 category rifle ever built is the czech SA 58, currently being replaced in the czech army.
Its not stamped, allthought light, more reliable and accurate than the AK with some small but goo changes to the receiver or might be piston (i dont know for sure)...

Until today a lot of diferent Kalaschnikov rifles have been developed and only a few of them went in to mass production, allthough some of them were really goo, but simply to expensive for the russioan army.

Generally said, the best weapon selection was in Fallout 2 for sure, the broadest and taken from the real world, allthough the damages and range did differ from the reality

In fallout two, even the G11 caseless (abandoned in real world by the german army due to high cost) was featured. And regarding the rail gun - as far as i remeber, the gauss gun ( two millimeter caliber i think) was featured in Fallout two, which was basically the same principle - by an electromagnetic field propelled metall projectile...

If gamesas would like to have some consultation regarding historicall, modern war and future weaponry, i would definitelly love to help

Weapons did kind of svck in both las vegas and fallout 3, to be honest

Had hands on training on almost all of the above mentioned guns btw ...

hows about a rail gun ,and no i dont mean a railway rifle i mean a weapon that uses mag lev technology . its a frictionless propulsion system it can generate heat due to electrical energy being used but theoretically the weapons barrel wouldnt wear out think japanese high speed trains now get a series of ring magnets jam em down a pipe a couple of fission batteries the stock from a .50 cal gpmg and some uranium plenty laying about in vaults id bet , make the ammo out of that on a lathe that you convienently also find in a vault rip the scope from a snipers rifle slap that on and you got yourself a .50 cal radio active super heated super sonic projectile firing bad boy that melts a large hole through anything in its path . the benefit to this design would be no powder is needed no muzzle flash and no bright green trace of plasma giving your position away to your enemy /prey , and throw in a surpressor just for good measure .

You sir just described to me the Gauss Rifle from Operation Anchorage and Fallout New Vegas!