Sorry, but what question/loophole are you referring to?
The loop hole about the suit symbiotic was in the first paragraph.
who was alcatraz and why did prophet talk in the end was the second paragraph and who was the voice in the end was explained in my third.

How did they misuse the term symbiotic?

"Symbiosis is a situation in which 2 different organisms live together in close association. Just living in the same place is not enough. By "close association" biologists mean that if they are separated, one (or both!) of these organisms will probably die."

The suit is repairing, or more precisely, filling in human tissue. Shutting down the suit (or removing it) would essentially mean that the user would lose the... whatever that's filling the "holes" and whatnot. The suit's nano shells can be breached. For example, by bullets. In such an event, the suit would fill in the holes, leaving the user dependent on the suit to survive. So hence, the suit and the user are in symbiosis.

How did they misuse the term symbiotic?

"Symbiosis is a situation in which 2 different organisms live together in close association. Just living in the same place is not enough. By "close association" biologists mean that if they are separated, one (or both!) of these organisms will probably die."

The suit is repairing, or more precisely, filling in human tissue. Shutting down the suit (or removing it) would essentially mean that the user would lose the... whatever that's filling the "holes" and whatnot. The suit's nano shells can be breached. For example, by bullets. In such an event, the suit would fill in the holes, leaving the user dependent on the suit to survive. So hence, the suit and the user are in symbiosis.

In symbiosis both organisms must benefit from the relationship. And the removal of one organism from the relationship does not necessarily mean they both die (sharks and remora for example, the remora could find another food source, and I suspect the shark could survive without its underbelly being cleaned).

Unless you can show some benefit to the suit, Crytek have misused the term.

Am I the only person that actually listened to the CELL soldiers talking in the first level where they let slip that Lockhart's nephew was in the nanosuit program and whatever happened to him is the reason why Lockhart hates nanosuits/Prophet so much.

I can only assume that Nomad is Lockhart's nephew because Nomad is the only other white guy in Delta, and Psycho is British while Lockhart is American?

Lets see now... Well, why do you think Prophet even bothered suiting Alcatraz up? He could have gotten out of the suit, shot himself and have the suit simulate himself.

The suit needs an operator. It can't just live on its own.

Guys, didn't you get it?

Prophet IS the suit, it only uses alcatraz as a zombie.

Look at hargreave's quote about the ' post-human warrior'. I think it's pretty obvious here. Prophet turned on it, his mind is combined with the suit, when he was almost dead. Then he gave his suit to alcatraz (who is almost dead also) and the suit started to rule the symbiosis (post-human warrior). The suit is prophet's mind, so alcatraz is prophet.

I wish I am clear here, and sorry for some bad english

Guys, didn't you get it?

Prophet IS the suit, it only uses alcatraz as a zombie.

Look at hargreave's quote about the ' post-human warrior'. I think it's pretty obvious here. Prophet turned on it, his mind is combined with the suit, when he was almost dead. Then he gave his suit to alcatraz (who is almost dead also) and the suit started to rule the symbiosis (post-human warrior). The suit is prophet's mind, so alcatraz is prophet.

I wish I am clear here, and sorry for some bad english

I don't think it's exactly like that. I think they are now functioning as two minds in one body. I say this because, why would Prophet get so pissed about himself and the others getting used as zombies, and then go and do the same exact thing to someone else? Prophet isn't that kind of person. He would be more like a Cortana type to him; taking over only when things are outside of his control or he is just not capable of performing a specific task.

Crysis 3's Beginning:

Alcatraz/Prophet run into a huge mess of Ceph grunts. One jumps on a rock and flies at you through the air.

*Nanosuit guy drops off cliff with MIKE, blasts grunt in the side of the head*
Nomad: I got your back Alcatraz and/or Prophet! Let's give the ugly bastards a taste of their own!
Nomad: You with me, boss?
Alcatraz and/or Prophet: Hell yeah!

How did they misuse the term symbiotic?

"Symbiosis is a situation in which 2 different organisms live together in close association. Just living in the same place is not enough. By "close association" biologists mean that if they are separated, one (or both!) of these organisms will probably die."

The suit is repairing, or more precisely, filling in human tissue. Shutting down the suit (or removing it) would essentially mean that the user would lose the... whatever that's filling the "holes" and whatnot. The suit's nano shells can be breached. For example, by bullets. In such an event, the suit would fill in the holes, leaving the user dependent on the suit to survive. So hence, the suit and the user are in symbiosis.

In symbiosis both organisms must benefit from the relationship. And the removal of one organism from the relationship does not necessarily mean they both die (sharks and remora for example, the remora could find another food source, and I suspect the shark could survive without its underbelly being cleaned).

Unless you can show some benefit to the suit, Crytek have misused the term.

The suit can only decorate display cases if it doesn't contain a human being. I'm sure the suit just shuts down if the wearer takes it off. That's some tasty symbiosis; fills my plate to the edges.

In symbiosis both organisms must benefit from the relationship.
This is not so. Check wikipedia article about Symbiosis.

The definition of symbiosis is in flux and the term has been applied to a wide range of biological interactions. The symbiotic relationship may be categorized as mutualistic, commensal, or parasitic in nature.

So even parasitism when one organism benefits and the other one is harmed is also symbiotic relationship!

Unless you can show some benefit to the suit, Crytek have misused the term.
No they didn't. They didn't mention category of symbiotic relationship between a man and nanosuit. Also suit benefits cause without a man it's just the pile of junk.

Well done. Now I feel stupid for not pointing out the obvious first. Jerk! <.<

wait a minute...what do people mean "what is the benefit for the suit?"

The suit does not function without a driver, its purpose is to interface with alien tech...no driver to materially help the suit do so = the suit 's purpose remains unfulfilled


sounds beneficial to me....

I think Jacob Hargreave orchestrated the Lingshan incident in order to test the Nanosuits effectiveness against the Ceph and based upon the gathered data from that battle, he created the second Nanosuit as the ultimate weapon against the aliens.

I think Jacob Hargreave orchestrated the Lingshan incident in order to test the Nanosuits effectiveness against the Ceph and based upon the gathered data from that battle, he created the second Nanosuit as the ultimate weapon against the aliens.


Do you think?

Phophet was used by him to use the Raptor Team to test the suit.

I think Jacob Hargreave orchestrated the Lingshan incident in order to test the Nanosuits effectiveness against the Ceph and based upon the gathered data from that battle, he created the second Nanosuit as the ultimate weapon against the aliens.


Do you think?

Phophet was used by him to use the Raptor Team to test the suit.

My bad. I still wish to know what happened after Psycho, Nomad and Helena entered the sphere to rejoin Prophet, if anything it'll at least clarify the fates of Psycho, Nomad and Helena.

i know. what did happen to them?

just a thought but maybe at the end of crysis 2 the reason alcatraz spoke was because the suit and merged to him and it can speak out loud alcatrazs thoughts? i also had a question how did propeht remove the suit without that killing him? ive never played Crysis1 but as far as i understand once the suit has merged with a user it cant be undone?

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hey ! i have a question.... how did alcatraz become prophet?!?! i just dont get how the suit made some sor to of genetic / digital imprint of his entire being... much of his conciouseness and his soul perhaps.... i jsut dont understand how that works.. and I am asking every one here who has played throught the entire game .

alright well this is my best guess. in the beginning when youre in the submarine a fellow marine states that " Alcatraz hanst been talking much of late, despite popular believe tequila is not good for you." which probably explains why he doesnt talk much. Prophet i think was the first to wear nano2 so the bond between him and the suit became strong enough for the suite itself to develope his personality later on. alcatraz is alive and fully conciouse i say this because at the scene were they try to remove the suit prophet/nano says something like ive had enough of this **** soldier wake up. now you gotta think why would prophet be yelling at himself to wake up? hes already awake, or why would he be yelling at a half dead alcatraz? which is why i belive alcatrqaz is still very much alive well given the circumstances. what i think hargraeve ment by post human warrior is that no one can survive without the suit for along time once the fusion has started. and the suit itself cannot operate without a pilot which would explain the whole symbiosis thing.

so for a quick example: if i got shot a couple of times and was mortally wounded but didnt die right away and someone happens to put me in a nano suit id survive aslong as im in the suit. but by taking it off i would sucumb to my wounds. i hope that helped

interesting stuff, didn't even think about most of this

You guys have certainly come with some interesting theories. From a more selfish point of view, several people have pointed out evidence that backs what I believed originally. At first I just didn't have it. I'll have the time to update the OP tomorrow, but after that I'm on holiday for a week, so keep it up until then peeps.

Otherwise, good job *badass look and thumbs up*

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