I've said this a million times, but hell...

Cloak needs a delay, when shooting out of it!



At 0:10 he cloaks and attempts to shoot out of Cloak, but it's not working. This is giving the game a bit more balancing, giving the attacked person time to react. But now, everyone is shooting out of cloak, killing the person (because the enemy can't react) and then recloaking again (because he got energy recharge).

If this doesn't happen, I see doom for this game. I'm not the only one getting pissed off by these players. It's just the problem, that it's possible to do this.

Here is the balance issue. While I typically never use stealth the whole idea of your gun being jammed while uncloaking would instead make it be a disadvantage to cloak during combat and reduce it's overall effectiveness majorly. When someone is cloaked it basically halves their hp, this video doesn't show if the hp remains halved while he's uncloaking, if it's the case it'd probably not be wise to nerf cloak that harshly. The delay he experiences in the video is more then enough time for him to be killed before he's decloaked fully regardless of the damage buff or not.

The better idea if one were to be considered would instead, be to make the delay of re-cloaking longer. Even though I never use stealth and sometimes cringe at the times when I get ganked from a stealthed player sneaking up. I still considering it my fault for not spotting them sooner, however the fact that they can nearly instantly re-stealth after firing could be addressed.

Overall I view stealth players against me as a minor gripe, but some small balancing changes could make it slightly less annoying in stealthy pro players.


0.6% stealth FTW ^_^

Here is the balance issue. While I typically never use stealth the whole idea of your gun being jammed while uncloaking would instead make it be a disadvantage to cloak during combat and reduce it's overall effectiveness majorly. When someone is cloaked it basically halves their hp, this video doesn't show if the hp remains halved while he's uncloaking, if it's the case it'd probably not be wise to nerf cloak that harshly. The delay he experiences in the video is more then enough time for him to be killed before he's decloaked fully regardless of the damage buff or not.
THAT'S THE POINT!

Why don't people press the GODDAMN E button before they shoot? Because they don't care!

It would be a lot more challenging, and balanced, if the player had TO PRESS ONE SINGLE BUTTON before they shoot. And Cloak should be used defensively and not offensively.

Sweer Jesus... Everyones doing it now.

Srsly, don't argue about cheating, because it's basically the same. You shoot out of Cloak and after the fight your still invisble. It's equal to cheating.

Cloak is fine, counters need slightly improving in my opinion with the exception of Visor Enhance which needs its range toning down a little.

There are already a lot of ways to prepare yourself against a cloaked enemy.
1 - Cloak Tracker
2 - Nano Vision
3 - YOUR OWN DAMN EYES (as in short-range, the whole cloaking doesn't really work that well)

That means the cloaked person can be detected before he knows he's been spotted already - causing him to get shoot down VERY fast.

3 - YOUR OWN DAMN EYES (as in short-range, the whole cloaking doesn't really work that well)

Cloak is really useless in small enviroments. I always use cloak when moving in open areas but not in tight places.
Why don't people press the GODDAMN E button before they shoot? Because they don't care!

It would be a lot more challenging, and balanced, if the player had TO PRESS ONE SINGLE BUTTON before they shoot. And Cloak should be used defensively and not offensively.
1 - I'm not lazy enough to not press one button. I always press Q before shooting.
2 - All 4 suit modes can be used both offensively and defensively. And that's how it should stay.

Also, I really like the recloaking delay idea. Maybe it should be in AM too.

I know how to deal wit cloak, it's just the damn fact that it's equal to cheating. Everywhere on servers people are raging, because somebody is permacloaked and shoots out of it. What this combination is (ER + SE + ME) is basically the same.

Why don't they start cheating? It's the same sheme: Cloak, run run run run run, shooting out of cloak --> victim dies, Energyrecharge gives 75% of Energy ---> recloak and repeating. It surely is permainvisble. Armor Mode isn't necessary for several players.

But obviously people here don't get what I'm trying to say, so whatever. Crytek isn't looking at this, too, so this is useless.

Probably because you're overacting about a easy-to-counter gameplay-mechanic.

Yeah, yeah.

There are already a lot of ways to prepare yourself against a cloaked enemy.
1 - Cloak Tracker
2 - Nano Vision
3 - YOUR OWN DAMN EYES (as in short-range, the whole cloaking doesn't really work that well)

That means the cloaked person can be detected before he knows he's been spotted already - causing him to get shoot down VERY fast.

I agree with the above, you can sometimes see cloackers with your own eyes, nanovision adds to this too. As Im one of the afforementioned cloack shooters, guess I have just got into the habit of shooting out of cloack when I KNOW I should activate armour before shooting. I will try to amend my ways Father....