Expression Error Unable to find cell id "Khartag Point&# : III

» Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:33 am

Expression Error Unable to find cell id "Khartag Point" in script ShrineBoethiah.

This is the CTD i have. Checked the cell, it is named correctly, checked the script, also seems ok, as it does have the "Khartag Point" in it.

Gamefiles (mods) i'm using (from .ini):

GameFile0=Aduls_Master_Mod.esm
GameFile1=Assassins Armory.esm
GameFile2=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
GameFile3=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
GameFile4=Better Heads.esm
GameFile5=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile6=CastleWars.esm
GameFile7=GDR_MasterFile.esm
GameFile8=GIANTS.esm
GameFile9=Havish.esm
GameFile10=Hilgya the Seamstress.esm
GameFile11=Morrowind.esm
GameFile12=MW_Children_1_0.esm
GameFile13=Pegas Horse Ranch v3.1.esm
GameFile14=Tribunal.esm
GameFile15=TR_Data.esm
GameFile16=TR_Map1.esm
GameFile17=TR_Map2.esm
GameFile18=Wizards Islands - Scourge of the Frost Bringer.esm
GameFile19=￡exa's Dwemer Alchemy V2 (EN).esm
GameFile20=A Hermit's Request.esp
GameFile21=A Strange Death.esp
GameFile22=abotGuars.esp
GameFile23=Aduls_Arcane_Armature.esp
GameFile24=Aduls_Arsenal.esp
GameFile25=Aduls_Suran_Dwelling_Revised.esp
GameFile26=Adventure's End.esp
GameFile27=Agent's Solitude.esp
GameFile28=Albaniar Prison.ESP
GameFile29=Albecius's Axe.esp
GameFile30=Ald Redaynia Extended COM.esp
GameFile31=Ald Redaynia Extended.esp
GameFile32=Amulets and Rings 2.1 Upgrade A.esp
GameFile33=Andus.esp
GameFile34=Antares' Creatures - Frost Giant.esp
GameFile35=Antares' Creatures - Treant.esp
GameFile36=Antares' Creatures - Trolls!.esp
GameFile37=ArchmagetowerTwo.esp
GameFile38=Arkngthunch-Sturdumz Expansion - With Lights!.esp
GameFile39=Art Of War Museum.esp
GameFile40=ARTIFACTS.esp
GameFile41=Ascadian Treehouse v-1.2a.esp
GameFile42=AshlanderTent.esp
GameFile43=Assasins Attack! V1.1.esp
GameFile44=Assassins Armory - Bolt Rifles.esp
GameFile45=Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.esp
GameFile46=Assassins Bastard Fix.esp
GameFile47=Balmora Ragoxified.ESP
GameFile48=Balmora University V2.01.ESP
GameFile49=Bandit_Hideout.esp
GameFile50=BARBARIAN.ESP
GameFile51=BarbarianHarderAddOn.ESP
GameFile52=bbsailorfuku2.5.esp
GameFile53=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile54=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esp
GameFile55=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esp
GameFile56=Better Heads.esp
GameFile57=BE_dh_homes.esp
GameFile58=BE_HousesForSale.esp
GameFile59=BE_The Soothsayer ver 1.1.esp
GameFile60=Big Paulds.ESP
GameFile61=Black Glass.esp
GameFile62=Blasphemous Revenants.esp
GameFile63=Bloodmoon_Creatures.esp
GameFile64=BM-Fixes.esp
GameFile65=Bridgewater Blacksmith 1.1.esp
GameFile66=Cali's Kitchen.V2.esp
GameFile67=CastleWars - Updates.ESP
GameFile68=Chascoda's Armored Dresses.esp
GameFile69=Chascoda's Java Shop.esp
GameFile70=Clean Balmora Undercity.esp
GameFile71=Clean jac_bearcub.ESP
GameFile72=Clean LightracenClassProject.ESP
GameFile73=Clean Smithy_Inn.ESP
GameFile74=Clean_D-Blade(V1.0).esp
GameFile75=Clean_magicka_enchantments.esp
GameFile76=cliffracer_armor_v.1.0_m.esp
GameFile77=CoM_Fix.ESP
GameFile78=Crusaders_of_Tamriel.esp
GameFile79=Daedric Lords Enchanted Island.ESP
GameFile80=DagonFel Mill V-1.8 esp..esp
GameFile81=dagoth_ur_mask.esp
GameFile82=Dark_Dwemer_Armor.ESP
GameFile83=DA_ArkFrzanch_Ruins.ESP
GameFile84=DA_Sobitur_Facility_Clean.ESP
GameFile85=DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_1 Clean.esp
GameFile86=DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_2 Clean.esp
GameFile87=DA_Sobitur_Repurposed_1.ESP
GameFile88=Death's Visi.ESP
GameFile89=Deus Ex Machina - A Steampunkyish Mod.ESP
GameFile90=dracandrosvoice.esp
GameFile91=DreadKnight.ESP
GameFile92=Dulsya Isle.esp
GameFile93=Dungeons 1.esp
GameFile94=Dungeons, Chapter 2.esp
GameFile95=Dungeons, Chapter 3.esp
GameFile96=Dungeons, Chapter 4.ESP
GameFile97=Dungeons, chapter 6.ESP
GameFile98=Dungeons, Chapter 7.ESP
GameFile99=Dungeons, Chapter 8.ESP
GameFile100=Dungeons, Chapter 9.ESP
GameFile101=Dwemer Alchemy Set (1.00 R3).esp
GameFile102=Ebonheart, Shack Town.esp
GameFile103=Enchanted Weapon Variety ME.esp
GameFile104=Enchanted Weapon Variety PTE Patch.esp
GameFile105=energy_swordv6.esp
GameFile106=EverScrolls.esp
GameFile107=Extra Trader.esp
GameFile108=Extra_Artifacts.esp
GameFile109=Fantasy Race Pack.ESP
GameFile110=fkoa.esp
GameFile111=flying_broom.esp
GameFile112=Frostmoth Docks.ESP
GameFile113=FRP and CW compatibility patch.ESP
GameFile114=fw_malcha_v5.0.esp
GameFile115=FW_Sabre iconfix.ESP
GameFile116=Geonox_W_W_Pack_01.esp
GameFile117=Ghorak Manor Updated Tribunal.ESP
GameFile118=GIANTS Ultimate Control file.esp
GameFile119=GothicLolitaDresses FINAL.esp
GameFile120=Havish - Scimitar Update (no MWE).esp
GameFile121=Havish Mini Patch.esp
GameFile122=Heart of Tamriel 1, The Ship.ESP
GameFile123=Heralders.ESP
GameFile124=HHS.esp
GameFile125=Hirstaang Mill V 1.2Q.esp
GameFile126=Hlaalu Home.ESP
GameFile127=Imperial Cart Travel.esp
GameFile128=Import Business; the Merchant of Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile129=Indarys Unleashed.esp
GameFile130=INDYBANK.ESP
GameFile131=indybankWC.esp
GameFile132=IronManPrototype.esp
GameFile133=Ixtaxh Sewers.ESP
GameFile134=JAC_Jasmine.esp
GameFile135=Javelin's.esp
GameFile136=JWs_Seyda_Neen_Rochndil_Remix_11.esp
GameFile137=k7_arcane_archery.ESP
GameFile138=Khuul Expansion 1.2.esp
GameFile139=KS_Katisha's_Fancy_Threads_1.0.esp
GameFile140=kwama_armor.esp
GameFile141=Legend of Akheed.esp
GameFile142=Leggings for Ultimate Knight Shop.esp
GameFile143=Lich Father Act I.esp
GameFile144=Lich Father Act II.esp
GameFile145=Magical Missile Ammo Mod_3.9.esp
GameFile146=MalSoft's Forces of Oblivion.ESP
GameFile147=marcMoriEstate.esp
GameFile148=Markhonen's Lair.esp
GameFile149=master_chief.esp
GameFile150=MA_berserk_potion.ESP
GameFile151=MA_nordamulets.ESP
GameFile152=md_daedralord_staffs.ESP
GameFile153=Mechanized Minions 1.6.esp
GameFile154=Merchant_Hideout.esp
GameFile155=Meskoa_particle_weapons_1.0_EV.esp
GameFile156=Meskoa_Weapon_pack_1.0_EV.esp
GameFile157=missing_gems.esp
GameFile158=MistyQuiver.esp
GameFile159=MistysTigerOutfit.esp
GameFile160=MNC_Ald-ruhn_ v1.1_EV.esp
GameFile161=Moon Sugar Plantation.esp
GameFile162=Morag Tong - Methas.esp
GameFile163=More Creatures Leveled v1.2.esp
GameFile164=Na'vi Bow and Arrow.esp
GameFile165=Necromancy Realism.esp
GameFile166=New Corprus Stalker.esp
GameFile167=New NPCs Balmora 1.ESP
GameFile168=NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
GameFile169=Nightveil.esp
GameFile170=Note to Hrisskar.esp
GameFile171=Object_Duality.ESP
GameFile172=Of Justice and Innocence.esp
GameFile173=PB_Dagoth_Bonemold.esp
GameFile174=Pegas Horse Ranch v3.1.esp
GameFile175=Pelagiad Greenhouse.esp
GameFile176=Pelagiad Provisions v1.3.esp
GameFile177=Plaza Brindisi Quest.ESP
GameFile178=Poe Lighthouse.esp
GameFile179=Port Hamvirr OV.ESP
GameFile180=Propylons Expanded.esp
GameFile181=Protective Guards.esp
GameFile182=Puzzle Halls ver 2.0.esp
GameFile183=Pyjamarama Narissa's Boudoir - v1.1.esp
GameFile184=RADD Artifacts.ESP
GameFile185=Ranyon-ruhn Buildable House.esp
GameFile186=Rat's Bow & Quiver.esp
GameFile187=Real_Katanas_For_Sale_v1_1.esp
GameFile188=Redaynia Village.esp
GameFile189=Retex G.A.esp
GameFile190=Robe_Crowswrath.esp
GameFile191=RR+BH.ESP
GameFile192=Ruby Weapons.ESP
GameFile193=Ruins of Serpenthold.esp
GameFile194=Samarys Expanded.esp
GameFile195=Sapphire Weapons V 1.ESP
GameFile196=Scamp Lord - Doppleganger 2.5.esp
GameFile197=Scripted_Spells.esp
GameFile198=Sentinel-V-1.5.esp
GameFile199=Serenity Island 2009.esp
GameFile200=SG-BB-for-beasts.esp
GameFile201=Silt Strider Armor - Ashlander Guards.ESP
GameFile202=Sins Of Our Fathers.ESP
GameFile203=Sky_City_v1.esp
GameFile204=SMRebuild.ESP
GameFile205=sm_ForgottenHalls.esp
GameFile206=Spot_of_Tea.esp
GameFile207=steam_guardian_helm.esp
GameFile208=Suran Waterfront V-5.1.esp
GameFile209=TarMar.esp
GameFile210=Taz's Wonderful World.ESP
GameFile211=The Broomstick Shop.esp
GameFile212=The Neverhalls.esp
GameFile213=The Quixinite.esp
GameFile214=The Raven.esp
GameFile215=The Ring.esp
GameFile216=The Sable Dragon 1.6.esp
GameFile217=The Ultimate Knight Shop.esp
GameFile218=TheLodge-2.esp
GameFile219=The_Swords_of_Morrowind.esp
GameFile220=THE_UNDERGROUND_2b.esp
GameFile221=The_Vvardenfell_Libraries.esp
GameFile222=THTWG - Harder Version.esp
GameFile223=Tomb Of Horrors V.2.0.esp
GameFile224=town_of_uvirith.esp
GameFile225=TreasureHunt.esp
GameFile226=TreasureHuntII.esp
GameFile227=Tribunal Order.ESP
GameFile228=Trouble_at_Sea.esp
GameFile229=TR_AdurinOuakaShack.ESP
GameFile230=TR_HelnimFieldsHouse.ESP
GameFile231=TR_MolagreahdShack_v2.ESP
GameFile232=TR_RR_House_v2.ESP
GameFile233=Tsaesci v1.0.esp
GameFile234=Undead - Mummies Arise from Death.esp
GameFile235=Undead arise from death 2.0.esp
GameFile236=Undeads - Skeletons Arise from Death II.esp
GameFile237=Undeads Skeletons Arise from Death.esp
GameFile238=Ushindra Beach v1.2.esp
GameFile239=Uvirith's Legacy CoM Add-on.esp
GameFile240=Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp
GameFile241=Vampire_Embrace.esp
GameFile242=Vampiric Citadel & New Armors v1.1.esp
GameFile243=VampRing-1.6.esp
GameFile244=VFX Weapons- Undead Blade Special Effect.esp
GameFile245=Visual Weapons.esp
GameFile246=Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp
GameFile247=Vivec_Trader.esp
GameFile248=Westly_Presents_FCOT.esp
GameFile249=Wizard's Rest.esp
GameFile250=Wizards_Islands_SotFB_Patch.esp
GameFile251=W_Pelagiad Townhouse.esp
GameFile252=W_Vos Apartment.esp
GameFile253=Yautja_wristblade.esp
GameFile254=Antares' Creatures - Cecaelia.esp

ShrineBoethiah Script:

Begin ShrineBoethiah

;global script, unlike the other shrines...

short dacurrentDay
short daysPassed
short dumaMove

if ( dacurrentDay == Day )
Return
endif

Set dacurrentDay to Day
Set daysPassed to ( daysPassed + 1 )

if ( GetPCCell "Caldera, Ghorak Manor" == 1 )
return
endif

if ( GetDeadCount "duma gro-lag" > 0 )
return
endif

if ( GetDeadCount "duma gro-lag2" > 0 )
return
endif

if ( dumaMove == 0 )
"duma gro-lag"->Disable
"duma gro-lag2"->Enable
set dumaMove to 1
endif

if ( GetPCCell "Khartag Point" == 1 )
Return
endif

if ( daysPassed > 20 )
"terrain_rock_wg_UNIQUE"->Disable
"ex_de_scaffold_01_Boe"->Disable
"ex_de_scaffold_02_boe"->Disable
"ex_de_scaffold_03_boe"->Disable
"misc_com_bucket_boe_UNI"->Disable
"shulonk gro-azorku"->Disable
"dumburz gro-bulfish"->Disable
"lazgar gra-durog"->Disable
"ugdumph gro-lumbuk"->Disable
ex_de_scaffold_01a_Boe->Disable
ex_de_scaffold_02a_boe->Disable
ex_de_scaffold_02b_boe->Disable
ex_de_scaffold_02c_boe->Disable
ex_de_scaffold_03a_boe->Disable
misc_com_bucket_boe_UNIa->Disable
misc_com_bucket_boe_UNIb->Disable
"Ex_DAE_Boethiah_fixed"->Enable
StopScript ShrineBoethiah
Return
endif

if ( daysPassed > 10 )
"Ex_DAE_r_platform_01_boe"->Enable
"ex_de_scaffold_01_Boe"->Enable
"ex_de_scaffold_02_boe"->Enable
"ex_de_scaffold_03_boe"->Enable
"misc_com_bucket_boe_UNI"->Enable
"shulonk gro-azorku"->Enable
"dumburz gro-bulfish"->Enable
"lazgar gra-durog"->Enable
"ugdumph gro-lumbuk"->Enable
ex_de_scaffold_01a_Boe->Enable
ex_de_scaffold_02a_boe->Enable
ex_de_scaffold_02b_boe->Enable
ex_de_scaffold_02c_boe->Enable
ex_de_scaffold_03a_boe->Enable
misc_com_bucket_boe_UNIa->Enable
misc_com_bucket_boe_UNIb->Enable

Return
endif

End

So, do you know any reasonable solution to this problem ?

» Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:14 pm

At a guess one of your mods has renamed the cell Khartag Point (-9, 4) and so the script fails.

Rougetet's http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6000 (last updated back in 2008, mind) lists the following mods as affecting that cell:

Spoiler

Black Queen Chronicles - Tenaka
Bones - James Fraser
Bunch O Stuff - APime11987
Children of the Night - Part 2 - JB
Daedra Summoning Enhanced - Banopr
Ferns - James Fraser
Grasses - James Fraser
Green Uvirith Expansion - KJ
Hunt for the Axe - Ajsquared
Killing Fields - Lady Rae
Lilypads - James Fraser
More trees and foliages - Skyfire76
Morrowind ADDON mod - Nemon
Moss & Vines - James Fraser
Nirnroot - Wildman
Official Mods - Deathbliss
Official Mods Combined - Mael_Storm
Official Plugins - Murlocke
Riller-Mosh BETA - Avrahama
Savant Armor Quest - Tenaka
Secret Garden - Ben Tokkin
Sky City - Rougetet
Sorkhaven - Michiel
Swamp Scums - James Fraser
Tel Autochthon - NewtC
Twin Lamps Mod (Tribunal) - Brother Juniper
Winter in Morrowind - omer135

So, if you have one of those it might be that mod.

If it's not one of those then you could try tes3cmd's http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Tes3cmd#multipatch_-_Patches_problems,_merges_leveled_lists,_etc. function. IIRC, using the command:

tes3cmd multipatch --cellnames --no-activate --no-cache >log.txt

Will create a file called "log.txt" in the same directory that tes3cmd is in, you can browse this to see what plugins modified cellnames. This could well pick up the offender.

"--no-activate" means that multipatch.esp won't be activated and "--no-cache" should make things run a bit quicker.

If that doesn't work (or you're not that au fait with command line tools) then I'm scratching around and would have to suggest a http://www.mwmythicmods.com/argent/tech/bin_srch.html.

» Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:13 am

When does the error appear - in the game's startup sequence (when exactly?), when creating a new character, when loading a specific savegame, or during the game?

If you can load load the game, try to teleport to Khartag Point (via console command) and see whether the cell name is accepted.

Are you using the Morrowind Code Patch? If not, then the game's memory corruption problems _might_ lead to something like that.

» Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:36 pm

When does the error appear - in the game's startup sequence (when exactly?), when creating a new character, when loading a specific savegame, or during the game?

If you can load load the game, try to teleport to Khartag Point (via console command) and see whether the cell name is accepted.

Are you using the Morrowind Code Patch? If not, then the game's memory corruption problems _might_ lead to something like that.

When starting a new game, it simply crashes and i get that error in my warnings.txt.

No, i am not using it.

» Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:55 am

I recommend installing it - even if it doesn't fix the current problem, it _will_ prevent savegame corruption problems that are otherwise inevitable with the amount of mods you're using. If you don't like it for some reason, you can also uninstall it with a single mouse-click.

If the code patch doesn't fix your problem, then I suggest the following:

Deactivate the mod with the offending script, try to start a new game. If the same (or a similar) error appears with another script, then something in your mod setup corrupts the game's memory, and I recommend a binary search (linked to by Dragon32 above) to find the culprit. If you can start the game, teleport to Karthag Point (or a cell nearby), and check how the cell is named. If it's not named "Khartag Point", then the new name can give you a hint which plugin changes it, you can then search the other plugins for that name (or you may be able to see from added items in the cell which plugin made changes there).

» Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:56 am

Deactivate the mod with the offending script

It's a vanilla script, afaik.

Seems the binary method is the only reasonable way... though i'll need to find some better software for plugin management then...

» Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:29 am

Did you try to install the MCP?

You could also add a mod that replaces the script with an empty one (if you can't remove it because it's a vanilla script). But I'm pretty sure that the script is not the problem, it's either memory corruption or a mod conflict (another mod renaming the cell).

Expression Error Unable to find cell id &#34;Khartag Point&#

Expression Error Unable to find cell id "Khartag Point&#