The thing that really made Halo a success, was releasing on console. If it released on PC, it would have been just another shooter, but the console community was dying for a solid shooter to play.

I definitely don't a lot of correlation to points I made in my post in yours, let alone mine being a generic version of what you wrote.


Pure luck? Umm, not really. Filling a void in a market and doing so with a quality first product (at least) for their time on the respective consoles and using it to build a large following who waits for continuation of that IP? Much more likely. Game franchises that sell 10s of millions of copies over multiple releases in multi-year periods don't do so on pure luck.


Halo definitely filled a need (like you said) and that got them an very large foundation of fans and a hardcoe following to keep building that IP on. I totally agree. It also helps that MS is using them as their flagship for the console and pushing Halo everything at every change they get.

i do agree, anyway Halo 2 was so good in XboX I think they deserved all the success they had, even if it was only for PC it would have been fantastic

agreed, halo 1 was so you could say underground when xbox first came out, not many people knew about its lan capabilities til a year or some 2 years after its launch, but once the truth was unveiled it was a total success and then halo 2 became the most successful console shooter in history I believe, the prime of that game was unstoppable.. i mean seeing that there were 300,000 players online in games on a constant basis was quite incredible, thats like the amount of a ppv buys of a [censored] crappy ufc event every night

I'll give it a rent via gamefly but what besides being a fps does it offer.

It has free cookies.

I think the SMART system is pretty cool, and it's a bit different of setting compared to other games.

Brink just seems more fresh and new.

To be fair Cod and Halo both will continue on for a long time, and it is deserved. Both bring fun competitive game play to the table that fits their own niche. That being said I think Brink has found a wonderful niche of its own, they still have plenty of time to get the word out and everyone I have shown the videos to has been siked about it too. In the end I think it could very well find its way into the next big shooter slot, I know I am going to do everything I can to put it there.

Well it has potential and COD has descended into mayhem but Halo seems to be getting a boost with Reach.

MW2 and the COD series is already going down hill and Halo Reach will be Bungie's last Halo Game so with the right marketing and good gaming community behind them (like us on the forum) I personally think Brink will have a great following and will br a great game. In short they will find their own niche in the gaming community for sure.

I don't want Brink to be the next big thing. I'll use an anology...

I live in the city of Cairns, in Australia. Sometimes it takes me 30min to drive from my house into the inner city due to traffic congestion. However, it's usually more like 15min.

My cousins live in Brisbane, the capital of the state. It takes them more like an hour to get near the city centre, and they aren't too far away from it.


Now if I tried to drive into the middle of say NY, it could take hours and hours. There'd be cars everywhere, blocking up all the roads. Some of those people would be bad drivers, and they'd possibly crash or just piss you off.



COD/Halo (NY) might have more content, or more players, but Brink (Cairns) should be easy to play and heaps of fun, with some special features the big games (cities) don't have.







TL;DR anology:

I'd rather play a nice small game with a good fanbase than a massive thing full of noobs, hackers and 1337 sn1p3rs.

@Ninjat_126

Excellent Point and cannot agree with you more!

but whats happens if the games success isn't good at all
so the developers stop supporting it/don't make a sequel
i'd think that'd worse then just having some "noobs" playing

CoD and Halo are too popular. That doesn't make them better. It's fairly obvious most shooters are better than halo, and on par with CoD. I'd take quality over popularity any day tbh.

This is so true, Name recognition is everything.



Amen.

if anything can kill mario I would be impressed.

the idea of a game killer is pretty stupid, you can't kill games, not completely, sure you can bash out their brains and organs and leave them to die but no game that i'm aware of (mind you my own gaming history isnt that long) has killed a game out right. Any game which would even be even inserted infront of the word killer would have a fan base which is loyal, the sense of community in those games is pretty great. If anything, from the way things are looking, Brink is gonna have a medium sized, tight knit community, instead of a massive sprawling community like some other games. personally prefer a medium sized community, you play against certain people enough to be tight knit but have enough new faces to push around.

Nobody needs to kill CoD or Halo as as Halo Reach is the last in the series and even 8 year old kids are realizing Cod is a scam, Cod is only fun if your messing around or playing online with freinds as you will dominate because everyone else is unorganized, Brink is the first game that I see strangers being able to stand up to online parties because of the new objective system.

Most FPS multplayers are unorganized not just COD.