I just want to say that im pretty sure this old build leak wont affect at all Crysis 2 PC sales. People have seen this old build how great action packed and smooth it runs.

Many have already preordered Crysis 2 after seeing how awesome it is and most importantly how great it!

I think EA is quite wrong, accusing yet again PC community because something which was probably leaked by an EA/Crytek employee (on purpose or not)

I myself have already preordered Crysis 2 from EA Store, because this game is simply AWESOME!

Il just quote this guy, because what he said is damn true

[quote=EP_Prea]Crytek/EA you have noone to blame but yourselves. I guarantee the leak was from an internal employee because of all the information that is contained within it. So look to your staff first and foremost. Second, you guys have been promising a MP demo for awhile now and have yet to give us one. You keep saying we will let you know. Well thanks to your stupidty or ignorance on how much that demo can make or break the sales we now have a much better alternative. I will say this, piracy is not effecting the gaming industry. If it is why do all these systems continue to flourish when they allow piracy? Systems include PC, xbox, Xbox360, PS2, PS3, DS, DSI, Wii, GameCube, and PSP. ALl those systems have piracy and yet sales are through the rough besides PSP and Gamecube. Hell PSP is still selling and PS2 has been selling for years even after the PS3 release. Also piracy is an excuse so Corporations can justify shoddy releases, internal leaks, and bad sales as a result of buggy software, and console ports. If the PC market is truly being effected by piracy why is Valve making so much money? Why did Dice make so much money on BF:BC2? Why did Activision make so much money on Black ops? I can go on and on but the point is piracy is only an issue because you publishers sell it to the console people so you can get more consumers over on the consoles. After all the PC gaming scene is supposed to be dead, according to journalists and publishers. Piracy, and it's effect on any platform is a marketing ploy to give people more of an incentive to move to consoles. It also gives console developers more money because PC does not have one sole company running things like consoles. Thanks for the leak though, it has definitely given me a greater incentive to buy Crysis 2 as the game is phenomenal. Expect money coming your way EA/Crytek for the preorder of the limited edition once I receive my income taxes. [/quote]

I agree, I just preorderd it because I saw the videos, looked awesome for medium settings and dx9

I just want to say that im pretty sure this old build leak wont affect at all Crysis 2 PC sales. People have seen this old build how great action packed and smooth it runs.

Many have already preordered Crysis 2 after seeing how awesome it is and most importantly how great it!

I think EA is quite wrong, accusing yet again PC community because something which was probably leaked by an EA/Crytek employee (on purpose or not)

I myself have already preordered Crysis 2 from EA Store, because this game is simply AWESOME!

Il just quote this guy, because what he said is damn true

[quote=EP_Prea]Crytek/EA you have noone to blame but yourselves. I guarantee the leak was from an internal employee because of all the information that is contained within it. So look to your staff first and foremost. Second, you guys have been promising a MP demo for awhile now and have yet to give us one. You keep saying we will let you know. Well thanks to your stupidty or ignorance on how much that demo can make or break the sales we now have a much better alternative. I will say this, piracy is not effecting the gaming industry. If it is why do all these systems continue to flourish when they allow piracy? Systems include PC, xbox, Xbox360, PS2, PS3, DS, DSI, Wii, GameCube, and PSP. ALl those systems have piracy and yet sales are through the rough besides PSP and Gamecube. Hell PSP is still selling and PS2 has been selling for years even after the PS3 release. Also piracy is an excuse so Corporations can justify shoddy releases, internal leaks, and bad sales as a result of buggy software, and console ports. If the PC market is truly being effected by piracy why is Valve making so much money? Why did Dice make so much money on BF:BC2? Why did Activision make so much money on Black ops? I can go on and on but the point is piracy is only an issue because you publishers sell it to the console people so you can get more consumers over on the consoles. After all the PC gaming scene is supposed to be dead, according to journalists and publishers. Piracy, and it's effect on any platform is a marketing ploy to give people more of an incentive to move to consoles. It also gives console developers more money because PC does not have one sole company running things like consoles. Thanks for the leak though, it has definitely given me a greater incentive to buy Crysis 2 as the game is phenomenal. Expect money coming your way EA/Crytek for the preorder of the limited edition once I receive my income taxes. [/quote]

Translation: Im trying to justify myself for downloading the leaked build.

The leak will impact sales. There are a lot of people out there who never touch multiplayer aspects of a game. These people who then play the leaked copy wont have much of an incentive to buy it.

i agree

You're beyond stupid if you think it wont influence sales.

I'd say it may influence it positively to be honest, considering the unfinished nature of the leak. Half life 2 definitely didn't suffer, neither did black ops with it's CONSOLE leak last year.

Those who weren't going to buy the game won't, it's always the way and is annoying. Still, this'll be a major hit on all platforms.

Also, having a quick check at some torrent sites, it seems that there are about 1k peoples seeding and downloading across all torrents. That isn't a lot. Compare that to the days of crysis 1 where games had a good 5k people downloading in a single torrent.

PC piracy has definitely gone down a helluva lot since then.

Please stop projecting your opinions as facts, its disgusting.

with or without demo i pre ordered crysis 2 for pc

@ Hedgehog8

Did the Half life 2 leak had an impact on the sales? The UT Beta? The DOOM 3 alpha?

the answer is no! Its an unfinished game not more than a glimpse of what the final game will look like.

I wouldnt be pleased with a beta... and so will be many others..

But what Cryteks needs to do now is think about another copy protection method... sad ..really sad

@ Hedgehog8

Did the Half life 2 leak had an impact on the sales? The UT Beta? The DOOM 3 alpha?

the answer is no! Its an unfinished game not more than a glimpse of what the final game will look like.

I wouldnt be pleased with a beta... and so will be many others..

But what Cryteks needs to do now is think about another copy protection method... sad ..really sad

Please provide a source for your information or read my previous post.

to be honest i think it is just a marketing move...
how the hell almost a full game can be leaked? omg

The half life 2 leak appeared around the 19. september 2003. It was an early build but it had many playable levels.
The final game came out on the 16. november 2004 and sold about 6.5 million copies ( not including the steam sales!).
But the criminal prosecution and the legal process were very expensive .

My source is the german version of wikiwatch ... http://www.wiki-watch.de/index.php?Content=LemmaDetails&LemmaDetailsTitle=Half_Life_2&PHPSESSID=7omuefh19efssiuu6bhdfq9e57

The half life 2 leak appeared around the 19. september 2003. It was an early build but it had many playable levels.
The final game came out on the 16. november 2004 and sold about 6.5 million copies ( not including the steam sales!).
But the criminal prosecution and the legal process were very expensive .

My source is the german version of wikiwatch ... http://www.wiki-watch.de/index.php?Content=LemmaDetails&LemmaDetailsTitle=Half_Life_2&PHPSESSID=7omuefh19efssiuu6bhdfq9e57

None of that proves that the leak didnt impact sales though. Keep trying.

I just want to say that im pretty sure this old build leak wont affect at all Crysis 2 PC sales. People have seen this old build how great action packed and smooth it runs.

Many have already preordered Crysis 2 after seeing how awesome it is and most importantly how great it!

I think EA is quite wrong, accusing yet again PC community because something which was probably leaked by an EA/Crytek employee (on purpose or not)

I myself have already preordered Crysis 2 from EA Store, because this game is simply AWESOME!

Il just quote this guy, because what he said is damn true

[quote=EP_Prea]Crytek/EA you have noone to blame but yourselves. I guarantee the leak was from an internal employee because of all the information that is contained within it. So look to your staff first and foremost. Second, you guys have been promising a MP demo for awhile now and have yet to give us one. You keep saying we will let you know. Well thanks to your stupidty or ignorance on how much that demo can make or break the sales we now have a much better alternative. I will say this, piracy is not effecting the gaming industry. If it is why do all these systems continue to flourish when they allow piracy? Systems include PC, xbox, Xbox360, PS2, PS3, DS, DSI, Wii, GameCube, and PSP. ALl those systems have piracy and yet sales are through the rough besides PSP and Gamecube. Hell PSP is still selling and PS2 has been selling for years even after the PS3 release. Also piracy is an excuse so Corporations can justify shoddy releases, internal leaks, and bad sales as a result of buggy software, and console ports. If the PC market is truly being effected by piracy why is Valve making so much money? Why did Dice make so much money on BF:BC2? Why did Activision make so much money on Black ops? I can go on and on but the point is piracy is only an issue because you publishers sell it to the console people so you can get more consumers over on the consoles. After all the PC gaming scene is supposed to be dead, according to journalists and publishers. Piracy, and it's effect on any platform is a marketing ploy to give people more of an incentive to move to consoles. It also gives console developers more money because PC does not have one sole company running things like consoles. Thanks for the leak though, it has definitely given me a greater incentive to buy Crysis 2 as the game is phenomenal. Expect money coming your way EA/Crytek for the preorder of the limited edition once I receive my income taxes.

Translation: Im trying to justify myself for downloading the leaked build.

The leak will impact sales. There are a lot of people out there who never touch multiplayer aspects of a game. These people who then play the leaked copy wont have much of an incentive to buy it.[/quote]
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LOL laughable logic you have. What are you talking about? are you that dumb? you talk as if this beta is the only one and last one which will be released on torrents.

For those people that are only for SP aspect, even if this beta would have not been leaked, it would not have mattered at all, because the full final game would still hit the torrents whatever we like it or not!

And no matter what damn build was leaked, keep in mind that GOOD GAMES SELL WELL NO MATTER WHAT! Battlefield Bad Company 2 PC sold very well and thats why DICE decided to make the BF3 PC version SUPERIOR as the LEAD PLATFORM for development! and to me Crysis 2 is a damn great stunning game which is going to do just great! i could have paid double money for it and i would still not regret preordering this SUPERBE game!

Yeah.. and you keep being ignorant... 6,5 million sales are really not bad for a PC only title.
Its also impossible to proof the opposite.. i cant create a what if scenario in which no leak appeared.
Of course you can say everything could make an impact on sales... even things like late demos.. the lack of information..etc..

Do you honestly thinking quoting the number of sales a game has proves they werent reduced by piracy? You are bad at this.

Yeah.. and you keep being ignorant... 6,5 million sales are really not bad for a PC only title.
Its also impossible to proof the opposite.. i cant create a what if scenario in which no leak appeared.
Of course you can say everything could make an impact on sales... even things like late demos.. the lack of information..etc..

Which is exactly why you shouldnt go throwing your opinion around as if it has any weight behind it.. it just makes you look stupid.

You can't say either way. You also can't say they were reduced. Based on the hype storm this seems to have kicked up i think it may slightly improve sales. Although, to be honest, most people aren't that fussed. Most of those interested are crysis 2 fans who were buying it anyway.

You can't say either way. You also can't say they were reduced. Based on the hype storm this seems to have kicked up i think it may slightly improve sales. Although, to be honest, most people aren't that fussed. Most of those interested are crysis 2 fans who were buying it anyway.

Im arguing that piracy and leaks influences sales and nothing else. Im not arguing that Crysis 2 will sell more or less because of this leak. For people to come to these forums, or any others, and claim that leaks and piracy do not alter sales is just hilariously ignorant.

Spore was pirated over half a million times, seems like a lot of lost profit to me. Oh wait, these 500,000 people purchased the game legally after it was released.. I forgot about that sorry.

Here's something simple for you to comprehend:

If a pirated version were not available, I still would not buy what I do not want.

I d/l games that I am curious about seeing or checking. I buy games that I want.

I have not downloaded this Crysis 2 beta because it is a game that I wish to buy.