Umm yea ram is cheap, and will be cheap so i don't see reason to buy extra no needed eq. for rig which won't use it anyway. And AvP/BC2 don't need more than 4gb of ram o.O

yes it does , atleast on my rig it does , i have a logitech g510 with a lcd screen that displays what ever you want it to , both games run at 39-44 % ram usage

yes it does , atleast on my rig it does , i have a logitech g510 with a lcd screen that displays what ever you want it to , both games run at 39-44 % ram usage

And since when 39-44 % ram usage means that game + OS use more than 4gb of ram?
I just run BC2 with completely maxed out settings in 1920/1080 res. and got 60+ FPS while system(OS+Game+some small programs) was using max 3.3gb of ram, and same goes for AvP.
There is no game which alone use even 2.5gb of ram.

Edit?
Oh wait i get it, you think that game use more than 4gb of ram because your Kboard LCD says so. Haha well instead of looking at this LCD look into Task Manager and see there how much ram use your game. And that LCD probably display wrong info. because of those 12gb of ram while there is no game which can use mroe than 4gb. Simple glitch.

well 40 % of 12 gigs is 4.8 gigs usage is it not ?? what ever dude im not having a pissing match with you lol , my keyboard displays total ram usage in % of max
yes u are so wrong my os is using 1.5 gigs so that means the games are using over 3.2 gig
go troll elseware

Umm yea ram is cheap, and will be cheap so i don't see reason to buy extra no needed eq. for rig which won't use it anyway. And AvP/BC2 don't need more than 4gb of ram o.O

Whether or not games these days need more than 4gb is irrelevant. if your buying a new rig, and you want the best bang for your buck and plan on having a strong pc for a few years, 8gb of ram is no brainer. Having extra just incase is never going to hurt you, and its not going to cost much either.

With my 5770 I play Extreme at 1920*1080 and get about 30-40fps constant

:)

I get 50 on Extreme! Think it might be something to do with your game. Because I've got a Radeon 5870 and it works fine without any of this fancy stuff. Your 4 Gig Ram might be a problem though. I got 8, that might be that reason, your other stuff is working so fast yet your RAM is bottlenecking it perhaps?

i have i5 2400 , gts 450 , 2 gb ram and i get 50 fps on extreme with vsync off

All of you are missing the resolution when reporting the FPS. Maybe we can prevent useless debate if you clarify that.

well 40 % of 12 gigs is 4.8 gigs usage is it not ?? what ever dude im not having a pissing match with you lol , my keyboard displays total ram usage in % of max
yes u are so wrong my os is using 1.5 gigs so that means the games are using over 3.2 gig
go troll elseware

There is no game which together with OS will use more than 4gb, everything above can be used only by temp memory for video/graphic editors. And it won't go over 4gb because OS won't allow this to happen. Who cares what your LCD displays since important is what Task Manager shows. These days any game will go max for 1.5gb of ram usage because other tasks are done by graphic card.

I bet you can't post screen here from your task manager showing those 3GB+ usage by game itself.

Erakio; I think you may have read my post incorrectly. When I use 1 gtx460 1gb, I was getting 50fps on very high; with 2 gtx460's in sli, i was getting 112+ fps; thats better than a 2.1x scaling increase (how is that even possible?? who cares, nvidia you rock!). When I put it on Extreme, i get 72+ fps in the heaviest combat. Also, anyone who thinks 4gb of ram is insufficient, I run BFBC2 and get 80-90fps easily. I'm pretty sure noone is calling that bottlenecking; thats on the highest settings with vsync off (because nvidia recommends it off), hbao on every setting maxed out 1920x1080p.

My OS is always using over 1.5gb of ram and that's when it's idle.



Windows Vista and Seven have a major performance difference, the possibility for the OS to exploit the amount of ram is unique to Seven. From 4-8-12gb my ram usage was different on Seven, not much going from 8-12gb. You ask me, before regretting buying an excess of ram, I regret having SLI GTX 570 given that a single card was easily running Crysis 2 @ 1920x1080 on Extreme settings. We all got screwed over by Crytek, they didn't release official system requirements until the game actually released, so some of us got rigs that over shot the system requirements by 2-3 folds. I don't play the game anymore, so I've found new ways of enjoying my rig.

On a side note, I no longer will support Crytek releases seeing they have chosen to go backwards from their original focus. This is when I have no objection on game pirating. When CoD:Black Ops released, forums flooded with complaints on how terrible game stability was and the never ending list of bugs... Don't forget Black Ops is Multi-Platform also. People complained, people flamed Treyarch and absolutely wanted Infinite Ward to develop the next CoD. Here's what happened. Treyarch was hard at work on constantly patching the game until the game worked perfectly for everyone, all this in a matter of 2 weeks. Who's developing the next Call of Duty? Infinite Ward. Activision still cares about PC gamers and gamers in general??? Damn, EA? Crytek? Both are jokes to me. Everyone do the same and stop playing this game, let it die off as it's all it deserves. There are plenty of good FPS' out there.

My OS is always using over 1.5gb of ram and that's when it's idle.



Windows Vista and Seven have a major performance difference, the possibility for the OS to exploit the amount of ram is unique to Seven. From 4-8-12gb my ram usage was different on Seven, not much going from 8-12gb. You ask me, before regretting buying an excess of ram, I regret having SLI GTX 570 given that a single card was easily running Crysis 2 @ 1920x1080 on Extreme settings. We all got screwed over by Crytek, they didn't release official system requirements until the game actually released, so some of us got rigs that over shot the system requirements by 2-3 folds. I don't play the game anymore, so I've found new ways of enjoying my rig.

On a side note, I no longer will support Crytek releases seeing they have chosen to go backwards from their original focus. This is when I have no objection on game pirating. When CoD:Black Ops released, forums flooded with complaints on how terrible game stability was and the never ending list of bugs... Don't forget Black Ops is Multi-Platform also. People complained, people flamed Treyarch and absolutely wanted Infinite Ward to develop the next CoD. Here's what happened. Treyarch was hard at work on constantly patching the game until the game worked perfectly for everyone, all this in a matter of 2 weeks. Who's developing the next Call of Duty? Infinite Ward. Activision still cares about PC gamers and gamers in general??? Damn, EA? Crytek? Both are jokes to me. Everyone do the same and stop playing this game, let it die off as it's all it deserves. There are plenty of good FPS' out there.

ya i have 570 sli as well. if i had known crysis 2 would be the way it is i would have just got a single 580.

It will use more the 4gb if you use x64 bit operating systems.

according to the minimum requirements it wont. maybe that is true, but i do run 64 bit windows. like i said, 72+fps on extreme for crysis 2, 80-90 fps in bc2, this is with all settings maxed out during the most graphically intense combat, ambient occlusion on quality, etc.

Im having, in extreme settings, 80+ fps with this rig. But I prefer playing with VSync on, allways 60 fps and runs incredible.

- Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit.
- Intel Core i7 Extreme 965, 3733 MHz
- Intel Tylersburg X58 Chipset, MSI MoBo.
- SDRAM 6GB DDR3 (3x2GB, (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-18 @ 457 MHz)
- Dual Sapphire 5850 Extreme Edition 2048MB in total
- Sound: Logitech G35 7.1 Surround Gaming Headset + Sound Blaster Titanium X-Fi (when not using the Headset).
- 1x Kingston SSD 64GB, 245MB/s reading, 145MB/s writing + 2x640GB WD Caviar Green SATA-II in RAID-0 7200 RPM + 1x500GB WD Caviar Blue 7200 RPM.

also, like the rest of you, I was and still am disappointed that crysis 2 did not support dx11 on launch; i specifically bought my 460's for dx11 supported features, as i'm sure all the 5xx series users did too. lets not forget though, after that dx11 patch release was false back in the beginning of april, and then cry-tom denied any dx11 patch in the future, it turns out that they really are releasing a dx11 patch, according to the absolute latest update from tomshardware.com. they havent givent a release date yet, but i'm sure we will all be impressed, as crysis raised the bar so high a few years ago, remember they didnt release crysis 1 with dx10 either; that was also a patch, and look how that turned out. just have a little patience; the game still looks awesome.