Hey crytek, why don't you guys just find the aimbot' that the players use and reverse engineer it and create a system as part of the game that blocks it?

It's easy to google "Crysis 2 aimbot" and find tons of results showing what the aimbots actually do and stuff.

How about "reverse deflection" that makes hackers kill themselves, that would be funny

It's not that simple. For an example. Fps uses a loader that checks your account on their server. Yes it can be circumvented, but in doing so you are effectively breaking the law by breach of contract. Also, whomever made the loader isnt stupid. Nobody is going to easily reverse engineer it. Its quite clever actually.

If you go to these kinds of sites, part of the agreement is that you do not copy or alter their information. Since what they are doing isnt illegal, this contract is binding. in legal terms, 'cracking' their code is just as illegal and immoral as cracking cryteks, even if they are assholes and makes a business of it.

Actually it IS illegal to use aimbots, I've not thoroughly read the EULA, but if I recall right, it's forbidden to use third party tools to give you an advantage over others.

Aimbots and other such hacks are third party tools that give you an edge. Not to mention they needed the Crysis 2 code to create the aimbots, which also is against the EULA, I think.

Just left a server 'cos of an aimbotter by the name of TRS xspasticx. Every time I spawned he had me within about 5-10 seconds.
He had 129 kills by the end of the round.

I thought it would've been good if each map had a dozen or so 'phantom players', maybe one phantom player for each real player on the server. The point is that these phantom players don't show up in normal play whatsoever, they're just floating around in preset paths around the map. But for aimbotters~ ~they'd be randomly firing at NOTHING, giving the non botters a chance to take them down.

For added security, why not give the phantom players hitboxes and invisible models that look just like enemy players? That way wallhackers will be seeing false positives and texture hacks to see enemy player outlines will seem real but they're not.

It's not exactly infalliable but it could help

Actually it IS illegal to use aimbots, I've not thoroughly read the EULA, but if I recall right, it's forbidden to use third party tools to give you an advantage over others.

Not illegal in the technical sense. it is against the voluntary agreement you accept when you install the game, which in turn gives them the right to ban you if you dishonor the contract. It is a pretty severe thing actually. in the abstract. you buy a tv and break the contract with the dealer. he then takes away your tv (backed by the full force of the legal system). Absurd example for the sake of amplification.

Aimbots are certainly immoral, but they are not illegal software. Those that make a living from them has every right to do so. If you read on their forum it is obviously a working business with people who care for their costumers, but also makes it damn clear that it is against the contract rules with the game provider and bans are to be expected at some point.

What I am trying to get through with my limited English vocabulary is that, while it is immoral to use an aimbot, and will have consequences. it may actually be illegal to reverse engineer these peoples COMMERCIAL code. the kind of illegal that may involve 'the legal system' if they so choose. I am not a jurist, these are my layman opinion on the matter.

The thing however is this: They have to reverse-engineer at least part of the game's code in order to create the aimbot in the first place, which as far as I know, Is illegal.

I knew TRS xspasticx He was looking down and was firing and killed of us Headshots I real Aimbot I wish the Coding for Cheat countermeasures were more Sophisticated and more secured

LOL If hacking isn't a breach of the contract, then Crytek couldn't ban them

It's not that simple. For an example. Fps uses a loader that checks your account on their server. Yes it can be circumvented, but in doing so you are effectively breaking the law by breach of contract. Also, whomever made the loader isnt stupid. Nobody is going to easily reverse engineer it. Its quite clever actually.

If you go to these kinds of sites, part of the agreement is that you do not copy or alter their information. Since what they are doing isnt illegal, this contract is binding. in legal terms, 'cracking' their code is just as illegal and immoral as cracking cryteks, even if they are assholes and makes a business of it.

Not true. Hacks don't have much copy protection and is usually in C#/C++. Pretty much any decoder can break open the compiled class but that doesn't matter anyway because many hackers post their source code along with their executable.

It's not possible because you are trying to do 2 different things. Hacks work by injecting into the application as you play along; you can't just simply 'reverse engineer' it and somehow make it disable itself.

had the same xperience today with a guy called dfr xxxxxx (didnt remember the rest), i got 4 to 5 seconds to live before i die, he was just firing around. In the end i was killed 17 times by him, he had over 80 kills. Kickvote didnt work also.

Thats what makes Steam so great, kick this *****, and every player easily can report that ***** to the support.

Just play on Boom Boom Room and anyone who gets more than 6 kills in a row gets auto kicked. LOL.

Video evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/warspirituk#p/a/u/0/N31s_wuu4Mk

Just play on Boom Boom Room and anyone who gets more than 6 kills in a row gets auto kicked. LOL.

Video evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/warspirituk#p/a/u/0/N31s_wuu4Mk

lol...dont be awesome on BBR or we will kick you. They must be from Denmark

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law

Just play on Boom Boom Room and anyone who gets more than 6 kills in a row gets auto kicked. LOL.

Video evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/warspirituk#p/a/u/0/N31s_wuu4Mk


Pretty nice videos on your channel. Keep it up.

It's not that simple. For an example. Fps uses a loader that checks your account on their server. Yes it can be circumvented, but in doing so you are effectively breaking the law by breach of contract. Also, whomever made the loader isnt stupid. Nobody is going to easily reverse engineer it. Its quite clever actually.

If you go to these kinds of sites, part of the agreement is that you do not copy or alter their information. Since what they are doing isnt illegal, this contract is binding. in legal terms, 'cracking' their code is just as illegal and immoral as cracking cryteks, even if they are assholes and makes a business of it.

Ah don't you think they already broke the law? They have messed with the game files. and altered the way the game is played. that site got a rude awakening coming real soon. They are braking the law. Anyways could you imagine them taking you to court cause you screwed with there loader. LOL please. i cant wait for them to get there rear ends sued.

Sue them for damages for loss of sales and goodwill. Theres no way that Crytek/EA would make much off it, but they would probably be unable to pay the court fees and either settle or shut their site down.

Yeah that TRS xspasticx, is the biggest aimbot ever, its because of him that I bothered to get my gamerosd working again for recording, but he left before I fixed it.

!!! looks like he did get banned according to c2stats, wow, can't believe Crytek/EA actually did something, either that or its just banned to look his stats up.

+10 if you actually banned him. -1 if you didn't.

crytek could always hire some one to make and then break hacks for their game so they could prevent them from happening ....

Ah don't you think they already broke the law?
Contrary to commen-sense, code injection is totally legal.

Ah don't you think they already broke the law?
Contrary to commen-sense, code injection is totally legal.

Somewhat. But they are causing reputably damage to a legit company. So yes it is breaking the law. they are making money off of the crysis name.<--- Breaking the copyright law. They have hacked the crysis code <----- Breaking the the law. They have Broke the law anytime they use the word CRYSIS MODERN WARFARE BATTLEFIELD 2 BAD COMPANY 2 for monetary gain.
EX I take the crysis 2 code and play with it and make it where you can see other players behind walls. AIMBOT. And the call it the Crysis 2 wall hack. Then i put it on my hack site and promote it and make money on it. Copy write violation!!!=Breaking the law. Injecting code is like injecting a virus. Its illegal.

Were not talking GOOGLE ANDROID

Ah don't you think they already broke the law?
Contrary to commen-sense, code injection is totally legal.

Somewhat. But they are causing reputably damage to a legit company. So yes it is breaking the law. they are making money off of the crysis name.<--- Breaking the copyright law. They have hacked the crysis code <----- Breaking the the law. They have Broke the law anytime they use the word CRYSIS MODERN WARFARE BATTLEFIELD 2 BAD COMPANY 2 for monetary gain.
EX I take the crysis 2 code and play with it and make it where you can see other players behind walls. AIMBOT. And the call it the Crysis 2 wall hack. Then i put it on my hack site and promote it and make money on it. Copy write violation!!!=Breaking the law. Injecting code is like injecting a virus. Its illegal.

Were not talking GOOGLE ANDROID

But the thing is, EA or any other games publishers don't see hackers as a threat to their sales, more of the opposite otherwise these cheat sites would of been shut down and owners sued a long time ago.

EX I take the crysis 2 code and play with it and make it where you can see other players behind walls. AIMBOT. And the call it the Crysis 2 wall hack. Then i put it on my hack site and promote it and make money on it. Copy write violation!!!=Breaking the law. Injecting code is like injecting a virus. Its illegal.

If they did this by tempering the binary or the source code, then it would be a violation of copyright law. But intead they chose to use code injection which is permitted by the copyright law.
Those hackers are not idiots.