Ok,

So as some as you know by now, I've complained about SE III being overpowered and I still think it is. Cloak is abused IMO. I hope one day Crytek will do something about it and reduce the crutch many players need to play well or in some cases compete at higher level gameplay (I will speak on this later).

Now. Since it's double xp weekend I've been wanting to complete as many modules as possible to max out the xp, this obviously includes stealth modules, but I also want to work towards the 100% collection dog tag as I'm 5th reboot. Not that the dog tag means much since every Tom, dike and Harry have either glitched it or cheated in some way to obtain it but I want it so I know. I've NEVER used any stealth modules outside SE since my 1st reboot then I only dabbled for a little.

So obviously I needed to put Stealth Enhance III on the back burner. Let me tell you, it got some getting used to, and at first my initial setup was this.

Energy Transfer II
Covert Ops I
Mobility Enhance I

Reminder - The Elite Class is;

Energy Transfer III
Stealth Enhance III
Retriever III* (Weapon Pro III is also viable but not as good.)

So I needed to rank these up and I've played about 30 or so games today, mostly IA, and now got them to rank III. My mindset at the time was that I needed Mobility Enhance to compensate for the lack of SE III and so I choose to rank this power module up first.

At first, it was quite hard adjusting to this new class as I needed to charge more and I had to time shooting out of cloak better because I got used to the fast transition that SE has. However it is surprising how your gameplay changes when your gameplay isn't just ""let's sprint round with infinite cloak and energy and shoot anything that moves" I've enjoyed this game a lot with the new build and now have moved onto the following...

Energy Transfer III
Tracker
Ammo Pack

I know strange setup right? I have found the Mobility Enhance is not really necessary either. Not using the ELITE setup really pushes you as a gamer and tests you're abilities. It's a personal challenge. I'm learning to hold down certain areas more, be more cautious, take care in who and/or when I engage, I now think before I act, focus on using armor more and I am having a lot more 1-on-1's which is a lot more exciting than playing as an ELITE and popping in and out the kill someone then going back to cloak. I feel like I'm competing in the games, not slaughtering.

I have been able to maintain a 3.56-3.59 KD. My KD has not changed since going from an Elite class to these normal classes. I know I'm still using Energy Transfer but it is essential IMO until I least get Nano Recharge as I don't get any energy to do anything without (run, jump, cloak or armor up) and it becomes a chore. This all goes to show that if you're a good gamer you don't need the best of the best weapons and modules to do well. I won almost everygame except 5, I quit 2 of them because I was 1 bar and I joined mid-game in the other 2 the last one I was out-played, kudos to my competitor.

Let me note though that this class is very good versus bad and very good players, these make up about 98% of players, but from time to time (1 in 12 games) you will come across someone exceptional. In that case I usually, switch to my ELITE class mid-game. The thing is if were equally skilled then my opponent will likely win by virtue of this setup.. he can travel A LOT faster than I can with little to no thought due to his unlimited energy AND all the benefits that cloak brings and Retriever of course. However, I don't mind this. I don't mind having to switch to my best class against exceptional players, however before I was using this class against bad to very good players and it svcked using the same thing over and over again.

Finally, I would like to say that the imbalances of the ELITE class are much more apparent after you have used something different. When I switch to my Elite I feel like I've activated Super Saiyain! It's so easy, so convenient... to use a car anology it's like driving your car on cruise mode or on automatic.. while a non-ELITE class is like driving the car itself i.e. manual mode. Although it stroked my ego to dominate noobs with my Elite class it felt unrewarding, most players are not even high enough level to have these modules and compete anyway.

I encourage you to try something new and you will be surprised how fun it is to actually earn your wins rather than having them handed to you because you have OP class. I know you still need skill with the Elite class but it does A LOT of the work for you.. being the underdog and then winning vs. others OP setups is much more satisfying (in my opinion).

Kazakage.

#1 the original elite setup was.
1 energy transfer
2 stealth enhance
3 mobility enhance.

that setup uses the least energy of any setup and i still find myself having to charge up because I'm low on energy.
so quit exaggerating about how people have unlimited energy.
btw most of the energy modules got nerfed anyway making them use more energy or making them not refill energy as fast.


so what your saying is that even with these modules that have been nerfed people still kick your but online.
that's called you svck at this game.

lol I knew that was coming. But yeah I svck too if he svcks and has a 3k/d. One of my classes are setup the same way (se3, et3, me3) and its not all that great. I agree that almost half the modules are pointless but there are many good combinations that I have used that got better results, but like the op said you need to pick and choose your battles and be very aware of energy and enemies.

I never use the elite class anymore, its boring really, good read btw

Also you should try this class

Mike/Shotty

Proximity Alarm
Jammer III
MEIII

Kinda simple, once you have someone activate proxy alarm, you know their radar is jammed, and you can approach accordingly with strong CQC weapons, extremely fun and effective

#1 the original elite setup was.
1 energy transfer
2 stealth enhance
3 mobility enhance.

that setup uses the least energy of any setup and i still find myself having to charge up because I'm low on energy.
so quit exaggerating about how people have unlimited energy.
btw most of the energy modules got nerfed anyway making them use more energy or making them not refill energy as fast.


so what your saying is that even with these modules that have been nerfed people still kick your but online.
that's called you svck at this game.

I can understand your English, but you're logic makes no sense whatsoever..

The "nerfs" barely did anything... I can't even tell the difference and saying that YOU need to charge up now and then is about you, not me. If I'm playing IA, I'm killing someone every 12-15 seconds so my Energy is always full and I probably only need to charge up only a handful of times per game.

Mobility Enhance III is better than Retriever III? HahahahAHAHAHAhahah!

Where did I say that people are kicking my butt online? I said that I maintained my KD (now 3.64) with a non-Elite class after playing 30 or so games and I won almost all of them and most my loss were because I was "Cryteked". So I'm SAYING that I'm still KICKING ASS even without the Elite class.

If your not going to read anything that I write properly then don't waste your time posting, were wasting yours and everyone's time.

I never use the elite class anymore, its boring really, good read btw

Also you should try this class

Mike/Shotty

Proximity Alarm
Jammer III
MEIII

Kinda simple, once you have someone activate proxy alarm, you know their radar is jammed, and you can approach accordingly with strong CQC weapons, extremely fun and effective

Thanks Zee, glad someone decided to read what I actually said.

The class looks fun, are you finding it difficult to play without cloak all the time. how have you "adjusted"? lol

From the release till now I have been playing with these modules:

Proximity Alarm
Cloack tracker
Aim enhance

This is the best run and gun setup for me. Aim enhance 3 lets you move twice as fast when ADS. This will make people miss you. This way you don't have to use armor all the time in a 1 on 1.

From the release till now I have been playing with these modules:

Proximity Alarm
Cloack tracker
Aim enhance

This is the best run and gun setup for me. Aim enhance 3 lets you move twice as fast when ADS. This will make people miss you. This way you don't have to use armor all the time in a 1 on 1.

Nice setup.

How useful to you find Cloak Tracker to be and are you still able to maintain a good KD?

My k/d is 3.4. Cloak tracker is useful in the medium and small sized maps. In maps like compound its less useful.

I have no problems spotting cloaked players.

My k/d is 3.4. Cloak tracker is useful in the medium and small sized maps. In maps like compound its less useful.

I have no problems spotting cloaked players.

Very good KD.. it's fun that the cream always rise to the top. You don't need an Elite class to do well.... but it HELPS alot!

I can see where youre coming from with using non-SE modules on small/medium maps, on large maps I need to use SE by the fact it just takes too long and too much energy to get from A to B without it. Thankfully, most maps on this game aren't big and even if they are they have many section as viable pitstops.

I think i could have a 5 kd with a cloaky, whimpy class, but I wouldn't be making a lot of kills, it would be very boring and I wouldn't be having fun.

I never use the elite class anymore, its boring really, good read btw

Also you should try this class

Mike/Shotty

Proximity Alarm
Jammer III
MEIII

Kinda simple, once you have someone activate proxy alarm, you know their radar is jammed, and you can approach accordingly with strong CQC weapons, extremely fun and effective

Thanks Zee, glad someone decided to read what I actually said.

The class looks fun, are you finding it difficult to play without cloak all the time. how have you "adjusted"? lol

Its actually not hard at all cause I still use cloak, I just only use it when my proxy alarm is fully red (only really works when its III, otherwise use cloak at anytime its red at all)

Its actually really good, you arent on radar unless you are 18 meters away from someone, and you wont be for long because you have ME and proxy alarm to help you.

When you use the elite setup and go to a different setup you're still gonna be doing well, its just you have to try a little more, because think, so many people are using SE/ET and they dont really do too well. It all comes down to player skill in the end imo

#1 the original elite setup was.
1 energy transfer
2 stealth enhance
3 mobility enhance.

that setup uses the least energy of any setup and i still find myself having to charge up because I'm low on energy.
so quit exaggerating about how people have unlimited energy.
btw most of the energy modules got nerfed anyway making them use more energy or making them not refill energy as fast.


so what your saying is that even with these modules that have been nerfed people still kick your but online.
that's called you svck at this game.

I can understand your English, but you're logic makes no sense whatsoever..

The "nerfs" barely did anything... I can't even tell the difference and saying that YOU need to charge up now and then is about you, not me. If I'm playing IA, I'm killing someone every 12-15 seconds so my Energy is always full and I probably only need to charge up only a handful of times per game.

Mobility Enhance III is better than Retriever III? HahahahAHAHAHAhahah!

Where did I say that people are kicking my butt online? I said that I maintained my KD (now 3.64) with a non-Elite class after playing 30 or so games and I won almost all of them and most my loss were because I was "Cryteked". So I'm SAYING that I'm still KICKING ASS even without the Elite class.

If your not going to read anything that I write properly then don't waste your time posting, were wasting yours and everyone's time.


i find your last comment hilarious. because you obviously didn't read my post. i never said mobility 3 is better than retriever 3. i said it was part of the original elite setup which happens to be the most energy efficient setup in the game period. so you obviously just wasted your own time posting.

btw i can kick butt with any setup.
i've probably pubstomped you many times in ia team ia crash site ctr. using a bs class.

hahahaha whatever you say!

Hm... I wonder why the idea behind this thread feels faintly familiar...

I use SCAR with laser sights, it just looks cool IMO. My modules:

Armor Enhance III
Blind Spot (trying to upgrade it now)
Aim Enhance III
I never use cloak, and as you say, you feel damn powerful when you switch back to Elite class.

hahahaha whatever you say!


hahahaha play me 1v1.

hahahaha whatever you say!


hahahaha play me 1v1.

I forfeit, you win this internet argument. No trophy unfortunately.

God I wish Kazakage would just stfu about the SE complex he's suffering from and leave anyone here who might want to use it to enjoy it in peace without him (know-it-all) telling them how cheap it is (in his opinion - which he preaches as FACT).

There ARE a few different module combos which work and y'know, people find fun in different things. Leave them be and quit the lectures, Kaza isn't the authority on the damn thing. And guess what? There's a lot of people out there who couldn't give a sh*t about some superficial stat which VERY loosely represents player skill.

*awaits predictable allegations of "trolling"*

God I wish Kazakage would just stfu about the SE complex he's suffering from and leave anyone here who might want to use it to enjoy it in peace without him (know-it-all) telling them how cheap it is (in his opinion - which he preaches as FACT).

There ARE a few different module combos which work and y'know, people find fun in different things. Leave them be and quit the lectures, Kaza isn't the authority on the damn thing. And guess what? There's a lot of people out there who couldn't give a sh*t about some superficial stat which VERY loosely represents player skill.

*awaits predictable allegations of "trolling"*

Well no-one is forced to read my threads.

If you see "Kazakage" as the OP don't read them... my polls probably aren't be considered by Crytek anyway so I'm just p*ssing in the wind tbf.

I have given many reasons why SE is cheap, so if you don 't think it is then explain. If you don't then fair enough. I'm bored and fed up of people not reading what I write and then misinterpret it and I can't be bothered to argue against you.

You win.

I like these type of posts and thank you, Kazakage, for them. Im not very good at this game, below 1 K/D, but I REALLY want to be better at it. These types of informative posts allow me to see what my ass kickers are using so I can be sure to level the proper modules up and compete more.

Armor Enhance (Pretty much useless at start... especially compared to Energy Transfer III)
Visor Enhance (Helps aiming and reduces Nano Vison(I think it should cancel it out or reduce it by a lot) and protects you from flash grenades but I wanna swap it out)
Rapid Fire ( I wanted to level it up for Secondary Weapons bonus but the Hammer is pretty fast when you press it fast... whats level 3 do?)

Not the best setup but...

I like these type of posts and thank you, Kazakage, for them. Im not very good at this game, below 1 K/D, but I REALLY want to be better at it. These types of informative posts allow me to see what my ass kickers are using so I can be sure to level the proper modules up and compete more.

Thanks

Have you seen my "Ultimate Guide to Being an Elite Player" and "Ultimate Guide on becoming a Douche"? They will help you especially the former.

I was thinking of making a "How to rank up fast" and "How to increase your skill" guides as well, will do the former tonight probably or tomorrow. Little late considering that double xp weekend is over soon.

i'd like to show you my ultimate 1v1 guide for ladder matches on http://www.fraggednation.com