First Person staggering

Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:51 am

I have pondered this ever since hearing about Skyrim's awesome new combat mechanics, i have been wondering weather the whole of our fights and motions will be seen in First Person perspective, now im not talking about the simple stuff such as swinging a sword or shooting a fireball out of my hand im talking about staggering and knock-downs.

In Oblivion if you were knocked down by and opponent the game would zoom out to a third person view while you weren't pushed backwards and into the ground and it would wait until you were standing again before returning to a first person perspective. Now although this might seem perfectly fine imagine how much more immersive this would be if you simply stayed in First Person and you fell to the ground with the same view as you would have if you fell over in real life, rather than zooming out into third person. Now im not to sure how hard this would be to implement however it is seen in some FPS and yes im going to name the infamous cod. I'm simply wondering if it would be possible to have a first person staggering system in Skyrim and what you guys would think of this. This would also apply to other aspects of the game not just when you are knocked back or staggered in combat but it could also allow for other things for example:

You are fighting a giant when he grabs his huge club and whacks you fair in the side of the chest with it, now im not to sure about you but i don't believe that any human would simply be able to shrug of a blow from a creature as big as a giant, imagine if rather than just taking the blow you was thrown to the ground in a sideways motion and then had to regain your feat. That would be so epic to see in first person.

Now have a little bit of hope after seeing the gameplay trailer where the Dohvankiin (spell check) is running towards the cliff and it shows him almost lose his balance and fall over the edge in a first person perspective, this looked really good to me and gave me faith that maybe all movements will be seen in first person.

I may be expecting to much but i was just wondering what everyone elses thoughts might have been. :)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:59 am

I'd love to stay in first-person constantly and not be thrown into third-person.

With all the emphasis they're placing on third-person in Skyrim though, I wouldn't count on it.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:34 am

yea I'd really like that if I choose 1. person I never see in 3. person
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 10:25 pm

I'd love to stay in first-person constantly and not be thrown into third-person.

With all the emphasis they're placing on third-person in Skyrim though, I wouldn't count on it.


Yeah im quite worried by the seemingly large emphasis on third person, for me one of the things that made Elderscrolls games so great was the fact that they were First person unlike almost any other RPG on the market, if anything i think that Bethesda should be making more efforts to improve the first person rather than the third person.

Although thats just my opinion i guess, and my opinion dont mean [censored]....hahaha
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:40 am

Yeah im quite worried by the seemingly large emphasis on third person, for me one of the things that made Elderscrolls games so great was the fact that they were First person unlike almost any other RPG on the market, if anything i think that Bethesda should be making more efforts to improve the first person rather than the third person.

Although thats just my opinion i guess, and my opinion dont mean [censored]....hahaha

Yeah, I agree. First-person suits the Elder Scrolls series so well and really makes it stand out from all the mainstream action-RPGs out there with third-person combat.

I can understand them wanting to improve the third-person aspect a bit to give people better options... I just hope it doesn't have a detrimental effect on the first-person side of things.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:29 am

Yeah im quite worried by the seemingly large emphasis on third person, for me one of the things that made Elderscrolls games so great was the fact that they were First person unlike almost any other RPG on the market, if anything i think that Bethesda should be making more efforts to improve the first person rather than the third person.

Although thats just my opinion i guess, and my opinion dont mean [censored]....hahaha


haha, It means something :P
I for one like 3d person better , but if they can improve both ( and I'm sure they have) that's even better right ?

On topic : hmm, they did tell us that everything execpt the angles is actual gameplay, so I would be suprised if it's taken out :)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:39 am

Yeah, I agree. First-person suits the Elder Scrolls series so well and really makes it stand out from all the mainstream action-RPGs out there with third-person combat.

I can understand them wanting to improve the third-person aspect a bit to give people better options... I just hope it doesn't have a detrimental effect on the first-person side of things.


yeah thats exactly how i feel, im sure theres is actually quite a large percentage of people who would prefer to play the game in third person, however i cant help but wonder how good the First person system could be if they put so much more time into it.

on another note though the third person system definitely needing to be improved from Oblivion and Fallout 3 it was quite atrocious in those games and i can understand them wanting to improve it.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:39 pm

I sure hope so. O_O
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 10:19 pm

I'm having a hard time believing that everything will appear in first person. I suspect that all of the new crafting animations will happen in third person.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:07 am

While I much prefer third-person, and am delighted to hear that Skyrim will have a much improved third-person viewpoint, I believe that if you choose to play the game in first-person, everything you do should be viewed from that perspective.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:11 pm

It is entirely possible if they spend their time on it to make it look good. If anyone has played Condemned: criminal origins or Condemned 2: bloodshot they have the best and most immersive first person ive seen in any game so far (you can see your legs as you walk, see your own realistic shadow), like one part you get kicked down an escalator from behind and it looks just like what you would see if you actually fell down the stairs in real life (or the part where you grab a double ended axe and behead a boss dude in full heavy armor executioner style and its all in first person and insanely badass).
This has been one of the main things ive wanted them to upgrade since oblivion was the first person aspect like even getting to see your feet if you look down and see your shadow all in first person. In fact, if i had to choose to either have a way better and more immersive first person and have no third person option, i would rather take that and have them spend more time on the first person then spending any time on the third person (which bethesda has never really done that well - though fallout 3 was a huge step up for the third person aspect)

Oh yeah, also they need to make things like when you do a spin around power attack, your camera should actually spin around. I know people say that you get disoriented when that happens but come on, you're doing a spinning power attack, you SHOULD get disoriented. Mirrors edge did it when you rolled on the ground and [censored].
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:42 am

I have pondered this ever since hearing about Skyrim's awesome new combat mechanics, i have been wondering weather the whole of our fights and motions will be seen in First Person perspective, now im not talking about the simple stuff such as swinging a sword or shooting a fireball out of my hand im talking about staggering and knock-downs.


I sure hope it will. I play in first person to see things in first person, not to be randomly swapped to third at random intervals. All those jumps to third person view when knocked down, paralyzed, etc. in Oblivion drove me up the wall. Bethesda likes making noise about choices- okay then, respect the player's choice on whether they want to see the game in first or third person. Put your money where your mouth is.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:06 am

haha, It means something :P
I for one like 3d person better , but if they can improve both ( and I'm sure they have) that's even better right ?

On topic : hmm, they did tell us that everything execpt the angles is actual gameplay, so I would be suprised if it's taken out :)


Dont be that suprised. have you seen the E3 videos for oblivion? Watch number 5, its pracitcly a differnt game. I count about 15 features they "Showed to be in game" in that 5 or so minute segment that were not in oblivion or very much dumbed down.
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