A "world where the players don't have to eat"

Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:50 pm

The recent Playstation article mentioned that the variety of meats and food items seemed very complex and interesting for "a world where the players don't have to eat."

Do you think this confirms that there will be no hardcoe/survival mode in Skyrim?

Or do you think it's possible there is one, but perhaps Bethesda told journalists not to say anything about it until E3?

Or perhaps simply excluded from the demo but included in the final version of the game?

I would say that that only implies that there won't be a requirement to eat in the vanilla game, which is to be expected anyway. It doesn't really say anything about the possibility of a hardcoe mode.

Beyond that, and this is of course only speculation on my part, I'd think that the writer is hinting at the possibility of a hardcoe mode, but has no confirmation of that himself. Reading between the lines, I'd take it as he was told that "players don't have to eat," but he's saying, "Hmm.... there are all these different food items available though.... sort of odd for a game that doesn't require eating, don'tcha think? <raised eyebrow>." Of course, it's possible too that he's just mocking Beth a bit, since the same could be said of Oblivion - it's sort of odd that there are food items everywhere and even vendors that sell nothing but food items, but nobody has to eat.

But in any event, it doesn't confirm anything or even particularly strongly imply anything other than that the vanilla game won't have a requirement to eat, which, again, is what we would've expected anyway.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 7:58 pm

Beyond that, and this is of course only speculation on my part, I'd think that the writer is hinting at the possibility of a hardcoe mode, but has no confirmation of that himself. Reading between the lines, I'd take it as he was told that "players don't have to eat," but he's saying, "Hmm.... there are all these different food items available though.... sort of odd for a game that doesn't require eating, don'tcha think? <raised eyebrow>."


Hmm...very cool interpretation! I hope you're correct.

You seem to have the deductive reasoning powers of a certain pipe-smoking, cocaine-addled private investigator from the Victorian era
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 4:26 am

You can buy the game from any number of sources, including boxed PC version from retail stores. Steamworks is included on all versions to check to see if it is an authorized copy. It only requires Internet access once, once you first install the game. After that you can set the client to offline mode, so that you do not have to be online to play. As Todd has mentioned that "we like Steam," it seems more likely than not that Skyrim will have similar DRM, but I don't think there has been any official statement yet.
NV http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/Install_loop-1.gif off of the DVD without internet access, and I would not trust Steam in a situation where I would have to physically take my PC to an access point for Internet, install it, set it to Offline, and return home... Steam is not designed that way. Its for suburbanites, and those who want to play games on a train or Greyhound Bus. Steam may at whim, decide to need the internet again, and require you to haul your PC into town once more, or break your game access.

Its hard to believe (for some), but there are folks who choose not to have Internet in the home, while other's homes are beyond the reach of anything but Satellite based Internet, and don't want (or need) to pay $300 to install a $90 per month Internet service that cuts off when it rains, or gets flaky on really cloudy days. :brokencomputer:
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:55 pm

NV does not install off of the DVD without internet access, and I would not trust Steam in a situation where I would physically take my PC to an access point for Internet, install it, set it to Offline, and return home... Steam is not designed that way. Its for suburbanites, and those who want to play games on a train or Greyhound Bus. Steam may at whim, decide to need the internet again, and require you to haul your PC into town once more, or break your game access.

Its hard to believe, but some folks choose not to have Internet in the home, while other's homes are beyond the reach of anything but Satellite based Internet, and don't want (or need) to pay $300 to install a $90 per month Internet service that cuts off when it rains, or gets flaky on really cloudy days. :brokencomputer:


I can certainly sympathize. Unfortunately, the signs seem to point to the likelihood of Bethesda using Steam DRM for the boxed versions of Skyrim.
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 4:22 am

I can certainly sympathize. Unfortunately, the signs seem to point to the likelihood of Bethesda using Steam DRM for the boxed versions of Skyrim.

Its a shame.

(* Steam itself is not a shame, but that its being made the only option, certainly is. IMO companies really should offer the game Steam free to the boxed DVD customer, and offer them the chance to register the game, for a complimentary (or reduced price) Steam copy; for those who wish to use Steam, or Steam's features ~like achievements. The 2nd mod I installed was an achievement dis-abler; I would gladly ditch Steam entirely if given the option).
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:47 pm

The recent Playstation article mentioned that the variety of meats and food items seemed very complex and interesting for "a world where the players don't have to eat."

Do you think this confirms that there will be no hardcoe/survival mode in Skyrim?

Or do you think it's possible there is one, but perhaps Bethesda told journalists not to say anything about it until E3?

Or perhaps simply excluded from the demo but included in the final version of the game?


Or perhaps the author simply has an axe to grind, and has to throw in every baseless dig they can find so they tried to insult Skyrim by pointing out that it's like a massive list of other games out there? :shrug:

I mean...it might seem more signifcant to me if Skyrim was the first TES game with lots of food items, but...Morrowind and Oblivion seem to dispel that notion, right?
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Post » Fri May 20, 2011 3:08 am

Wheb I read the article I thought the writer was just trying to emphasise how much detail there was and how much work had been put in. You know, even though you can't do anything with it, the food is very detailed to make the world feel more natural or whatever.
Surely I can't be the only one who thought that.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 3:23 pm

I think it's quite possible its just a reference to the common RPG world where players for some reason never have needs of actual people, infact it sounds very much like that. I doubt if Beth includes a hardcoe mode that they'd have shown or talked about it to them at this time anyway.


Probably
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:33 pm

Some very interesting responses guys! I really need to get a job as a research consultant studying us gamers :)

@BootySweat: interesting poll! Damn! I am actually contemplating installing that damn Steam crap just so I can at least TRY FONV. *sigh*
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