FY71 Discussion

Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:53 am

So, here we are, the moment some of us have been dreading. The day Crytek released a buy to win gun?

We'll see. I've been playing with this guns for a couple of hours, and it certainly has its advantages. It kills quickly and efficiently, and sounds cool too. You can even get an assault scope on there!

A lot of people have been making remarks of it being overpowered, and unfair because you have to pay for it.
While everyone will agree that paying for these DLC packs is totally ridiculous, that's beside the point. Is it really overpowered and unfair? As I said, we'll see.

There are significant drawbacks to it, it is slow. Aiming down the sights and running around, very slow. And it's big, when you're aiming it will almost cover the entire lower half of your screen, which is a HUGE disadvantage, and I've often failed because of that. I'm not sure yet whether I like it over the SCAR, but I'll say this, as hard as it sometimes may be to believe, I do still perform significantly better using a SCAR.

I intend to try it out more to further my perception of the gun in comparison to the rest, and I suggest you guys do too.

So, I say we get the ball rolling and get some constructive discussion in here, since that's all we can do and hope Crytek is watching.
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Dean Ashcroft
 
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:28 pm

There is another big disadvantage : there is no XP to win (no kill & headshot counters).
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Stace
 
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:00 am

It'd be great if someone could post some in-game footage of it in action. I'd be willing to buy it if it looked promising :>
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:23 pm

It'd be great if someone could post some in-game footage of it in action. I'd be willing to buy it if it looked promising :>
+1
Id really like to see what it looks like.
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:08 am

There is another big disadvantage : there is no XP to win (no kill & headshot counters).

What's the point of getting it then if every time you use it you're not getting a kill or xp points? Are your deaths getting counted when you play with it?
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:09 am

Your kills are counted, what he means is that there are no gunwise stats, or assessments for that matter.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:57 pm

Your kills are counted, what he means is that there are no gunwise stats, or assessments for that matter.

Ah right I get you
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:53 pm

It'd be great if someone could post some in-game footage of it in action. I'd be willing to buy it if it looked promising :>
+1
Id really like to see what it looks like.

I can't seem to find any videos of it in use, but you can take my word for it when i say 'it is an extreamly sixy weapon :P'
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:52 am

Just did some testing on our server... 3 shots to the torso without armor, and 7 with armor. This is point-blank.

Here's what you wont believe. Armor mode: it takes 6 headshots. That's right, SIX. I'm gonna try again just to make sure..

EDIT: Scratch that, it must have been a fluke. Seems to happen if you hit the top of the head. The real count is 2 headshots on armor mode to kill, just like without. Same as with most weapons.
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:05 am

It'd be great if someone could post some in-game footage of it in action. I'd be willing to buy it if it looked promising :>
+1
Id really like to see what it looks like.

I can't seem to find any videos of it in use, but you can take my word for it when i say 'it is an extreamly sixy weapon :P'


I am uploading my first gameplay with the new weapon, it will be up early tommorrow morning so be sure to check it out.

Doing a 5 part set for each of the new maps, all using the new gun and smoke grenade.

Also Blackers you're in the video. ;) Along with some others who I've seen around here. :) And of course my TS3 squadmates. :)

http://www.youtube.com/warspirituk
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:23 pm

That means its high end damage is at LEAST 40 which is pretty high.. infact its the highest of any fully automatic weapon with the exception of the HMG. Unless its RPM ends up being under 500 its easily going to take the spot as the best weapon on the game.

If its RPM >is< 500 then its going to kill even faster than the Feline up close and im going to assume it kills faster at range too.

Its pretty sad they are selling an overpowered weapon as an addon to the game.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:11 pm

Dammit War, you left me out on purpose didn't you! Afraid I was gonna make you look bad? :P

Yeah, Hedgehog, it's damage per bullet is just above the SCARs, and the rate of fire is pretty much the same. Still, I aim a lot better with a SCAR.
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:17 am

Can someone owning the dlc upload the file "Scripts.pak" located in "crysis 2\gamecrysis2" so i can take a look at the FY71's stats?
Thanks in advance.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:17 pm

It's not overpowered. Rate of fire is pretty slow as was mentioned.
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:10 am

It's not overpowered. Rate of fire is pretty slow as was mentioned.

You managed to post that twice and still havnt given anything to back it up. If the FY has 500 or more RPM as its rate of fire it will easily take the #1 spot in the best guns list. Looking at the trend for damage drop off im going to hazard a guess that the FYs damage is either 40-35 or 45-40 with 40-35 being the most likely.

IF the FY has 40-35 damage and 500RPM it will kill faster than the Feline currently does.

Also the SCARs max damage is 30. 10 damage is a big difference in this game.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:57 pm

I am uploading my first gameplay with the new weapon, it will be up early tommorrow morning so be sure to check it out.

Doing a 5 part set for each of the new maps, all using the new gun and smoke grenade.

Also Blackers you're in the video. ;) Along with some others who I've seen around here. :) And of course my TS3 squadmates. :)

http://www.youtube.com/warspirituk

Oh cool :) I've always wanted to see me pop up on somones Crysis 2 video :P hope I did well ><
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:21 am

It's not overpowered. Rate of fire is pretty slow as was mentioned.

You managed to post that twice and still havnt given anything to back it up. If the FY has 500 or more RPM as its rate of fire it will easily take the #1 spot in the best guns list. Looking at the trend for damage drop off im going to hazard a guess that the FYs damage is either 40-35 or 45-40 with 40-35 being the most likely.

IF the FY has 40-35 damage and 500RPM it will kill faster than the Feline currently does.

Also the SCARs max damage is 30. 10 damage is a big difference in this game.


I actually used it, I don't need to "back it up." It's clear if you actually use it.. You're guessing so the only thing you "backed up" is the fact that you're an alarmist who is crying wolf with nothing concrete to base your statements on.
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:15 am

I actually used it, I don't need to "back it up." It's clear if you actually use it.. You're guessing so the only thing you "backed up" is the fact that you're an alarmist who is crying wolf with nothing concrete to base your statements on.

Sorry but your "feelings" dont hold any water when it comes to a discussion of weapon balance.

Ive heard from numerous sources that the FY does indeed drop players in three bullets which makes it the hardest hitting fully automatic weapon on the game. Even with a low rate of fire in respect to the other weapons it will still end up being the fastest killing auto weapon on the game.

You dont seem to understand this talk of health, damage, rate of fire, range, etc (you know, its what balances the game) so why dont you go elsewhere to scratch your head when you dont understand how you died each time you get your ass handed to you.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:26 pm

I actually used it, I don't need to "back it up." It's clear if you actually use it.. You're guessing so the only thing you "backed up" is the fact that you're an alarmist who is crying wolf with nothing concrete to base your statements on.

Sorry but your "feelings" dont hold any water when it comes to a discussion of weapon balance.

Ive heard from numerous sources that the FY does indeed drop players in three bullets which makes it the hardest hitting fully automatic weapon on the game. Even with a low rate of fire in respect to the other weapons it will still end up being the fastest killing auto weapon on the game.

You dont seem to understand this talk of health, damage, rate of fire, range, etc (you know, its what balances the game) so why dont you go elsewhere to scratch your head when you dont understand how you died each time you get your ass handed to you.


You "heard". I saw. Discussion over.
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Post » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 am

As I stated though, 7 bullets is what it takes to take down someone with armor mode.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:54 pm

Its not overpowered - it is a good gun though - basically makes the grendel obsolete. Its got a lot less accuracy than the SCAR though. it just Depends on your style of play. I honestly think its a perfect gun to add in the mix. It's a good gun and i'm going to keep using it mostly because it sounds bad ass. SCAR probably still just a little better though. I just wish FY had CELL skin though!
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:24 pm

What C2 video all i saw was Wars/C1 video.
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I actually used it, I don't need to "back it up." It's clear if you actually use it.. You're guessing so the only thing you "backed up" is the fact that you're an alarmist who is crying wolf with nothing concrete to base your statements on.

Sorry but your "feelings" dont hold any water when it comes to a discussion of weapon balance.

Ive heard from numerous sources that the FY does indeed drop players in three bullets which makes it the hardest hitting fully automatic weapon on the game. Even with a low rate of fire in respect to the other weapons it will still end up being the fastest killing auto weapon on the game.

You dont seem to understand this talk of health, damage, rate of fire, range, etc (you know, its what balances the game) so why dont you go elsewhere to scratch your head when you dont understand how you died each time you get your ass handed to you.


You "heard". I saw. Discussion over.

You saw what? What is the RPM of the weapon? What is the damage of the weapon? Enlighten us so we can compare to the SCAR and Feline.
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Post » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:50 pm

Bass, that's his channel, not the video. It should be up today.
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