I actually find it easier to RPG with no class restrictions.

Edit: Because now i can choose only 1 "major skill" so to say, while I previosuly had to have 7 (in OB).

Really has nothing to do with classes, that just has to do with major and minor skills.

Haha oh wow as if I haven't heard that sort of argument before. You don't want to bother trying to understand my point and instead just dismiss me as if you're some all-knowing guy with /endtopic capabilities. You should go take a debate class or something man, because that's no way to argue, and actually shows you to be the childish one. Even if a person's point is seemingly pointless to you that is no reason to just dismiss them.

At least I have been holding my temper and refraining from insulting you until my last post.

The main point is this:
Without the restriction of classes, you can RP a character at your disposal and leisure instead of being pigeonholed into the position at the beginning of the game, therefore defining your entire experience.
I agree that class titles had it's benefits, and if they WERE included in Skyrim, I'd have no problem with that. But I feel much better about it now understanding Bethesda's position on the matter and reasoning, as well as understanding the benefits of not having a class title. Combined with effective gameplay, perk choice, skill usage, star alignment choice, and playstyle, the limits to your own personal class RP are endless.
All you gotta do is use your imagination.

I agree that class titles had it's benefits, and if they WERE included in Skyrim, I'd have no problem with that. But I feel much better about it now understanding Bethesda's position on the matter and reasoning, as well as understanding the benefits of not having a class title. Combined with effective gameplay, perk choice, skill usage, star alignment choice, and playstyle, the limits to your own personal class RP are endless.

First of all, I am not one of the people who thinks that Bethesda removed classes to appeal to a more mainstream audience. Bethesda has always been passionate about making their games good and they are always loyal to their fans.

Bethesda removed classes because they wanted to take an approach where you actually be who you want to be. If you use daggers a lot, you will get better at daggers. You play how you want, and your character gets better at what you do,
like he would in real life.


This is a good idea on paper, but simply won't work. We are playing an RPG game. There is no way us gamers are going to just play the game without paying attention to stats, and just do what we feel like while our characters levels up according to our "personality".
Without any limitations and things to define our character (classes,) we will all find ourselves switching from a sword to bow, because our marksman skill isn't high enough, etc.

Putting everyone on a blank slate is not a good idea on an RPG game, even though in theory it would be a great immersion feature.

Yeah, I like the damage control.



Add in dynamic, on-the-fly changeable class names and descriptions, and the endless options just got 10x more endless. That is my point. You lose nothing by adding in a class UI, but gain nothing by not bothering.

Now, I'll be honest, this isn't game breaking for me. I'm not gonna pull a 5 year old and say I'm going to boycott the game. But fact of the matter is that this is something I'll be modding in after my first playthrough. (I always power my way through the story right when I get a game so then I can mess around afterwards)

Damage control? There is absolutely no damage control here bud. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing that I said in that post conflicts with ANY statements I've previously made in any post in this thread. My arguments and opinions have been concrete, and still are, and have not faltered. I have no changed my stance.
And you're right, adding "on the fly" changeable titles would add to the customization, no one could possibly deny that. That's not even an opinion; that's a fact.
But that isn't being added to the game. So we have what we have.