Well the reason why i am asking is cuz i am wondering if its possible to make the grass and bushes to be seen from a far like maybe double the range that is now with possible less details on them so it won't cuz too much fps drop, so anyone can do that or any of you guys know someone that can, cuz from the demo the grass and bushes were way too close to the char and everything else like 30 m from the char was flat land.

The PC version will most likely let you change the range of the grass, and I'm sure someone will do a low polygon grass mod as well. Let's just wait and see.

He that can have patience, can have what he will. -Benjamin Franklin

That has nothing to do with modders, but with your hardware. Raise your settings.

Do you maybe know someone from Oblivion who managed to do that?

I don't understand why we can't just get this is a option that we can change to that expands it MORE than the console. So stupid if we can't, which I am recently doubting that we will get an option to do any of this.

I'm pretty sure that in Oblivion you could just play around with the settings, either in game or in the .ini or whatever it's called to change the range of the grass.

I doubt your doubts.

But by doing that didn't you loose a lot of fps? I mean Skyrim is for xbox so i am not worried since i have pretty good pc but still it may cause a lot of fps drop i think the best way is to first like reduce the details of the grass a bit and than to increase the distance, that is why i wanted to see if any modder can reply.

For in game changing, yes you can make it less then what it is on a console, but not more then what it is on a console. I'm sure you can go into the ini file and change it, but why should we have to do that? They simplified it to the point already where a 12 year old [censored] could play it, why can't they just give us this option and similar options?

Probably skyrim will have separate sliders for drawing distance and texture resolution, so you should be able to increase draw distance and decrease texture resolution at the same time.

Possibly, the really high res textures will even be a separate Official download.

If the default vanilla Skyrim textures are too high for your system, even on the lowest setting, I imagine someone will make a low res texture mod like Oldblivion for Skyrim

We are just going to have to wait and see what the new engine is capable of. In Oblivion, even on the PC, you couldn't make grass appear out as far as you wanted. It was still limited to rendering in the uGridsToLoad region.

Increasing the draw distance will affect fps. And yes there are lower poly count models people make so you can increase the draw distance with less of a hit to your computers performance. I am gearing up to reinstall Oblivion and have been getting some new mods I have never tried. 2 of them I downloaded today.

One has lower poly grass which improves framerate
LowPoly Grass - tesnexus

The other is for rocks which does the same thing
Oblivion PolyGone Overhaul [OPO], Polys be Gone! - tesnexus

Thanks guys, btw wich umm hardware affects the draw distance and the draw distance texture most i mean like on what it has the most impact, is it on the cpu?

What I underlined... no I very very much doubt any modders will be able to do accomplish that, and also make it look like a nice seamless transition from high detail to low detail of grass.

PC users will be able to do is to increase the grass density and the grass distance, but not dynamically change its details. How much performance will we suffer from increasing this? We have absolutely no idea. Grass was a BIG fps killer in Oblivion so most PC users actually made the grass density and grass distance LOWER than vanilla, but then again Oblivion was horribly optimized.

Very much depends on how well optimized the Creation engine is so it can render lots of things. In my opinion, outlook is not very good, seeing what other games have been able to do technically compared to Skyrim... and seeing Bethesda's history and current situation with eh... technical & graphical stuff.

My best advice right now? Don't get your hopes up :confused: