Unlike other games, most of us don't really have another option that can truly replace TES. What other games out there allow you to mess with virtually every misc. object you can find in the exact same way that TES/Post-Fallout3 games allow?

Not everyone is born equal, not every person in a race is born equal.

Well unless some of the perks a guy who builds for speed cant be accessed by the other build.If i build for speed and get speed perks of varying degree i should be faster and i think we will be.I dont think a guy who has all his perks wraqed up in heavy armor stand toe to toe bash will be as fast .I dont think i should just be able to choose a race or template that defines how fast i am to a large degree i see it as allowing me to further define my style.If the player wants to invest in being fast let them dont give it to them.

The problem is that no initial characters are actually different and I think most of us would rather have our characters be unique not only then, but at all other times during the game as well.

This isn't an issue of "You can either have initial uniqueness or endgame uniqueness" its a problem of "Why not both?"

Well weight of current equipped items has effect on Movement speed in Oblivion, although perk for removal of such penalty was easy achievable, Oblivion has interesting movement mechanic problem was thats many of variables have too small values to have visible impact on gameplay or restrictions can be easy to overcome with perks.

I also hope on visible racial multipliers for main attributes, but also nice to see different bonuses to variables like actor movement speed in race abilities thats easy to be done even with script effect.


Reaction speed good for player but what about of AI controlled actors?
Difference in speed is need for them, besides how to say thats horse is faster then player character without speed variable, then if creatures can have such different variable why NPC cannot?

But think about it in real life.

Let's say I can run the same amount of time as Usain Bolt, who would made the distance first?

Him, of course. So movement speed should not be abandoned.

I thought encumbrance did change speed in Oblivion, since my feather spell affects my running speed as much as the fortify athletics one. Maybe it's part of OOO or something. I'm not completely sure what all the mods I have do.

I think I'll be okay with this change. Having to choose between something like, two different magic skills is fun because the fact that I have one means I'm okay with not having the other, but moving is something everyone has to do all the time and it's unpleasant for any character to move slowly after getting used to moving fast. With a speed stat you could eventually compensate for it, but if the races had different speeds without that I'd never want to play a slow one. Sprinting should give us the combat-related uses of different speeds without the "I want to raise speed so I can run to the next town faster" part.

No, it had nothing to do with it. Simple solution, Beth should stop selling out.

I think that was answered in the discusion.Lets say a khajitt may be a little faster than a nord to start and each varies a little.Now its not that much to start for sure yet it would take alot more work .Because the formula is based on a hardline instead of on one of ten hardlines for each race for a few extra speed points it seems wasteful.lets say a kahjitt with no items had 5 more speed than the nord in the end if the nord and he moved as if they had 105 speed and 100 speed .Was all that neccisarry .When the choices you make on build or perks have so much more effect ?Just my opinon its cool if we disagree.Or should a kahjitt just be way more fast i dont think so jmo.

It wont be it will just be determined more by your build armor and what youre carrying than how you were born.

I think standardized running is like the worst idea ever.

Oh look another thread complaining about the Q&A..

*leaves*

yet we are all human, each race isn't human, one is different then the other. A orc wearing nothing should not be as fast as a kajit wearing nothing at level 1

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Sorry not sure what youre saying here i must be misreading it somehow .I do understand the last bit not sure what youre saying about the horse and ai but player charicters will have a speed variable just based on stamina perks and what they are carrying and not how they were born as i see it.

Yes. More options are more options and they result in a more unique character, which is a good thing.



It should be determined by both, not either or.

Ultima?

Gothic?

I'm agreeing with this, because it's not just speed that is suffering but also the other jazz that used to make characters seem like individuals. I'm hoping that attributes have been secretly implemented, they are the only major loss that upsets me, so that we can shift a nord from being an altmer in more than just appearance.

I can respect that veiw i just tend to think that if in fact perks stamina armor and what youre carrying largely determine how fast(gives you alot more options) you move which i think they should the extra 3 or 4 speed points for takeing a khajitt over a nord or orc will make little differance .P.s. were the kahjitt actualy faster than an orc last game i dont think they were not sure but i think they just started out with more speed that could even be the case here .

Two games. Wow, look at all my options! :glare:



Sure if you disregard any notion of your character being unique and not just Iteration #X of Playstyle Y. Little things can make a big difference in games like this.

Just a question. Why the hell did Bethesda choose to remove the difference in speed between the races? Not only did it make the game more diversified, it also made much more sense. Why would the developers change that and dumb it down?

I never noticed the speed was different based on your race in previos games anyway :shrug: I'm really glad beast races have their own animations though