Remember the Elder Scrolls universe is in a separate universe from our own. Where magic...or at least what the people call magic exists. But the Ancient Astronaut theory could STILL exist but it would take an extreme stretch of the imagination to believe universe travel is possible.

Or the ancient astronauts are the gods themselves. There was a Family Guy episode where Stewie and Brian were tossed outside of the Universe and they caused a "Big Bang" creating the Universe. Well perhaps the Gods aren't really gods but rather entities residing outside of the Elder Scrolls Universe that have power over the ES Universe.

So who gave the aliens magic? And who gave the magic to the people who gave the magic to the aliens? And who gave the magic to the people who gave the magic to the people who gave the magic to the aliens? :ahhh:

Hey what? is that? Strange painting? spooky? yeeees.

The Bethesda dev team?

Final Fantasy was never a singular universe to begin with. What really made the series go downhill was the change in art direction from 10 on, and the adoption of the character design school of thought that more zippers = good and that symmetry is the enemy.





And it completely ruins the whole appeal of the Force, even the name of which suggests that it is a mystical and mysterious thing not understood by science, but accepted as a part of the universe. It was originally a philosophical concept brought into the reality of the setting and ineptly trying to "explain" it just misses the point. It also begs the question as to why people who want to use the Force don't just inject a buttload of midichlorians into themselves.



But it is a bad theory, as everyone in TES knows where the world came from since the creation myth is universal across all cultures (except Nords, who don't have a creation myth or organized religion at all, just a long oral tradition). There's also the fact that recorded history starts when the gods decided to make the world, which is only about 7000 years old.

Go to the lore forum and educate yourself.

Ok, as a recently unemployed scientist with nothing better to do, can we not call Ancient Astronauts a theory? Matter of semantics but it drives me mental

It would not be impossible that the gods are alien mortals that have transcended to immortals, survived their universe's big crunch and used it as materials to shape a new born universe (ours) and used sufficiently advanced technology to form our planet from stardust, create magic as a universal constant/force and create creatures etc etc in a mere few thousand years.

the·o·ry

noun?/?THē?rē/ ?/?THi(?)rē/?
theories, plural

- A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained
- A collection of propositions to illustrate the principles of a subject

So...How isn't it a theory? Am I misunderstanding the definition of the word theory?

When it comes to real life I find the ancient astronaut hypothesis insulting.
Insulting to our ancestors.
Somehow people have a hard time realising that our ancestors were not idiots.
They were homo sapiens just like us, with exactly the same brain capacity and ability to think and invent.
To assert that ancient works of architecture or science 'must' be alien because its so 'advanced' is truly an insult to our ancestors, because it assumes they were incapable of doing those things themselves.
Which is simply not true.

Besides that, aliens have never been to earth because we are still alive. An alien race that is less related to us as we are to spiders has no reason to see us as anything but a potential threat. Competition for resources, which are still finite.
If they ever had been here they would have killed us dead, and we would do exactly the same if we found an alien race less advanced than us. Hell, Id pull the trigger myself if need be.

When it comes to TES, sorry, there are no aliens.
There arent even any stars, such as we have them. In TES they are holes in the sky to the realm of magic.
While it may be possible that some structures from the previous kalpa could have survived being eaten by Alduin, saved by Dagon and later stuck back on, it is not possible that they are built by aliens. Sorry.

Edit: and the scientist is correct. Its not a theory, as a theory implies some proof that can be tested. Its a hypothesis.

:bowdown: :frog:

Which some believe to be our ancestors, so there you go.



Comes to mind that as origin myths come the Ancient Astronauts is just the teched up version of being descendant from the gods.

That really is what it boils down to in the end, especially in the TES context of muddying just what does and does not qualify as a god. Is it some minimum cap of power? Immortality? Control of a natural phenomenon by nature of your very existence? If you pick one or the other, at least one being normally considered a god gets the shaft each.

Well, if you go with the whole "Adamantine Tower is Akatosh's spaceship from Aetherius-that-wasn't-really-Aetherius-yet" then it sort of can be said, but not in the sense of pre-existing primitives being "lifted" from barabarism but of said advanced aliens deciding that "hey you know what we could totally do with a Universe right about now."

I see the lore forum is still the quarantine area for various game forum contagions.

Yes and No.

"Alien" in TES is more or less synonymous with Daedra, who in the past had extensive dealing with mortals before the towers were fully established.

Did you see Thor by any chance? There is a bit in it where the girl goes off on a technobabble about Rosen-Einstein bridges and Thor says "Owh you mean the rainbow bridge" like it's completely obvious that you'd walk on a rainbow.

BRAINSPLOSION!

Magnus.

I might be able to take the ancient astronaut theory more seriously if the people who believed in it were not so sure of themselves.

I can maybe, maybe see some pagan gods being aliens, but as for all the "oh aliens built the pyramids, and taught us how to use tools, and basically crafted human civilization" :facepalm:

EDIT: I agree with everything Merari said.

Holy smokes! I just had a new thought. You know, what if, just maybe...

The TES universe might be in reality a simulation, created by a group of reality shaping beings as a playground for other beings who can summon an avatar to interact with the TES universe.

Mind.
Blown.

Well, as i've always said, I can see Argoinians for what they really are; reptilian-lizard-like-looking-men.
But noooo, none of you believe me
"how can those Latin looking mexican's possilbly resemble anything like a lizard blah blah blah"

Whatever, im sure SOMEONE out there can see through these shape shifters like i can.