I want to play after the final mission : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:38 am

Wait wait wait wait. Are these two guys arguing over how the game should continue after Hoover Dam?

lol

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:37 am

They want you to learn that it just how a game should end, it shouldn't end saying "oh yea you can go back and play this or that again". Fallout 3 different they chose that because they believed if they kept you alive in that game you would seem to have more fun on the game, but they said there reasons why because of what faction you went to and how the battle at Hoover Dam became.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:51 pm

Wait wait wait wait. Are these two guys arguing over how the game should continue after Hoover Dam?

lol

No no, not at all. He is yelling at me over why i shouldn't talk about things that don't relate to this topic. And i am just messing with him.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:03 am

I'd like to play after the final mission,if you do not want to make a type DLC Broken Steel, unlocked at least the final.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:47 pm

Considering the Original Poster made it perfectly clear he was talking about the Final Mission of the base game, that's what this topic was about. Your TERRIBLE world play wont save you.

Maybe if you had FOLLOWED the THREAD you would have know this thread was made to talk about the final mission of the BASE game.

This thread is NOT about how to discuss thread topics, im looking at you Somtaaw. Please take that to the correct thread.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:03 am

I've decided that I want to play before the beginning of the game. I'm pretty sure I'm badassed enough to not get taken hostage by wimpy ass Benny. So where's my before first mission play? Where the hell's my Jason "I'm waay to polite" Bergman response? I demand equal time.

-Gunny out.

You know what I want? I want to stop reading these threads.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:48 am

You know what I want? I want to stop reading these threads.

That's easy, don't click on them. :tongue:

More seriously, with the number of threads on this subject that have already been gone through, I don't understand how people can still keep bringing it up. They have to know by now that it will not happen, so all the additional threads do is annoy people like us who long since got tired of reading the same thing over and over.

I still read them, although I probably shouldn't, as every once in a while the OP is actually reasonable about it rather than posting an incoherent screed, and can sometimes be persuaded that it's better to leave it the way it already is.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:09 pm

This topic has been discussed quite a bit already.

The mod you refer to has the luxury of being a mod.

If we wanted to extend post-endgame sequence, we have to deal with the fact that one of the three major factions in the game is gone. Not just depreciated, but actually *gone* from the game world. That means that every single quest and NPC that references that faction has to be modified in some way. This isn't like Fallout 3, where we can just excise the Enclave from the world and everything's fine. The entirety of Fallout: New Vegas is affected by post-endgame content.

But again, that doesn't matter for a mod. That's why mods are great. They don't have to round up every single actor and record new dialog to explain why you can't complete a quest anymore. People won't complain about that. They won't complain when you go to a specific area and there are NPCs from a faction that shouldn't exist any more. But if you buy an add-on, you expect those things to be there. And think about just how much that entails in a world the size of FNV, and just how tricky that would be to do.

Alternatively, we could do DLC that takes place long after Hoover Dam, in a mojave that is vastly different. But people wouldn't like that either, since they couldn't continue their existing quests they started before the endgame sequence.

In other words, the only way we could do post-endgame content is to do it really poorly. So we decided not to, and instead focus on the DLC we're releasing.

You may not like this decision, but surely you can understand why we did it.

again heres a clear explaination as why there is not going to be a Broken Steel for New Vegas
Thank you, Jason

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:24 am

But those who think you are, to speak on behalf of all the players?
There's a lot of people who longs to play after the finale, for example I would like the helmet of steel, because I can not get the game on PS3, maybe even experience points that accumulate and also all the equipment that recovers.
If you do not want to make a DLC Broken Steel type, then make a patch that releases the final.
Jason is a lot of people who want this DLC, think about it.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:05 am

I just posted my idea because thats what the thread was, i never said, you better make this or i am going to sue you, i just said "It would be cool if you did this..." I understand why they can't, but you can't sit here and tell me that you never wanted anything, even tho you knew it would never happen.

I'm confused, when was I ever speaking to you on this thread? Did you quote the wrong post? If it is correct, why exactly is it worded like I put words in your mouth and why are you putting words in mine? I'm genuinely confused here, as that post had nothing to do with you and never countered any sort of potential idea you had.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:47 am

Jason is a lot of people who want this DLC, think about it.

Suggest you read Jason Bergman's post again.

The gist is, theres no way they can do it and make people happy.

If they just open up the ending. Then people will complain because theres nothing to do.

If they open up the ending and have content, then people will complain because they are forced to play after the ending in order to access new content.

Even providing the extra content is an issue. They either railroad you into helping a single faction (Possibly in defiance of your earlier storyline choices), spend a lot of time making a questline for each faction (In which case there'd be complaints that you can't join the NCR in the DLC after forcing them out of Vegas) or introduce a new faction with absolutely no lead in. Guess what? Complaints.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:11 am

I wasn't crying, i said it would be nice, and gave a reasonable way they could set it up, so that it didn't interfere with the ending slides, as it said the Courier may return to the Mojave, so then the DLC would take you 15 years after the events that happened, and the Courier comes back. The map changes depending on what you did, and its possible as clarified by Jason Bergman.

The reason they decided not to do it, is because they were afraid people would get mad that they lost all there quest and then they would whine. News flash, its gonna happen either way, and its called just re load your saved game, or don't get the DLC, its not gonna harm anyone.

This is why i don't understand why people complain, no matter what your not gonna get exactly what you want, unless you mod it on a PC. Thats why Bethesda makes a big deal over modding, its why they allow the modding as most games don't. Fallout is such a big game and Bethesda or Obsidian can't do it all, so they allow you to mod, if you have the luxury of a top o the line computer.

I think getting it for computer is worth it, if you have a good computer. I am getting a computer this year for Christmas and plan on getting both Skyrim, and New Vegas for it. Thats also after i buy Skrim and New Vegas for my PS3. I enjoy Bethesda's game engine, and i enjoy the mods i have seen. Buying the game twice is well worth it.

I wasn't having a go at you for wanting a DLC to expand the game after the ending, I was having a go at the people who slated Bethesda for doing it with Broken Steel for Fallout 3, for all the 'Fallout fans' on here who clearly despise all but the first two games. They ripped Fallout 3 to shreds then they ripped Operation Ancherage to shreds, thent he Pitt wasn't good enough, Point Lookout was the only one to get any praise really. They all harped on about how the game was nothing like the originals and how Obsidian were going to show everyone how it should be done then New Vegas happened...
New Vegas was ripped to shreds and one by one all the dlc's too and so on. Why do these people play the games? Why do they come on here and slag the game off day in and day out?

I haven't always loved everything about the games or the DLC'c but I can honestly say I've loved all the games and DLC's as a whole.
You can't like every part of every game, DLC or quest but the way people go on on here it makes you wonder why they bother coming on forums of a game they hate everything about.

I'd love a DLC to expand the game after the final quest, I understand why they can't but why do people get so mad for us fans asking for it?
atleast we like the game and want more!

As for the PC mods and stuff, I played Falloput 3 and all the DLC's on my 360 then got the PC GOTY version, ran on full spec, got a load of mods 'cos I needed more Fallout but, I can honestly say although there are some talented people on these forums I haven't played a decent mod yet. they are rubbish, buggy and look like a rookie has done them.

It's great for up and coming wannabe programmers to learn but, if your expecting to get DLC or vanilla game quality you will be disappointed.

I stuck to my 360 for New Vegas and have had no desire to play the rubbish people bang on about on here.

Half of the time it's just extra weapons and lets face it, if you play Fallout for the weapons and shooting you're playing the wrong game. The quests are terible too.

Some good ideas, executed like a rookie. Unfortunately.

However, people on here will try and tell you differently, like it's the inner-circle of Fallout-ness. It's the inner-circle of disappointment... Save your cash!

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:37 pm

Clearly there cannot be a DLC that will leave the maps open because there are too many variables...well fair enough. However, that does not mean its beyond reason to simply introduce something new that in effect wipes clean a lot of the populations and factions but leaves the buildings and places...maybe a storm of extra radioactive rain that leaves the entire area populated 99% by various new mutants and ghouls? where there are maybe a few of each of the current factions scattered widely around and the couriers task is to reunite what little is left and somehow restore new veagas to something like its former glory? or go like red dead redemption and simply pluck one out of left field as they did with their zombies...alien invasion maybe? looking for those folk that keep stealing strange lil pistols and suchlike? remnants of the chinese army deciding they want nevada? there are an awful lot of possibilities, hopefully many a lot more elegant than my ideas.

» Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:03 pm

That is the work of one person. ONE PERSON is able to do what the entire team refuses to do at Obsidian.

So basically you're saying that one person can do it for pc players, and screw console players?
The one person made a mod for pc.Developers have to make it for all systems.kinda arrogant to rant and say its just an excuse that it would be too intricate to do.