Well the t45b is barley better than combat armor mkll anyway. I think they need to get the stats on pa straight.


I think one of the reasons they did not add more pa is because there are not many NPCs with pa in the mw. Plus, you can already get almost every type of pa ever made in the main game. There is even 2 shades of t51b.

@Longknife....... The "Tron Suit" is a dead serios piece of tech with all the upgrades. Like I said, with Enclave pa helmet it gives you 22dt, plus 24 dr from med x. dr is a monster......

I still wear pa anyway with this character, but it was hard to put that "Tron suit" in a locker. I may use it later on in the dlc. The anti pa weapons need to get more serious than what I have seen to take it off. The nightstalker bites are more anti pa than the anti pa weapons lol. The Enclave helmet actually goes good with the " Tron suit." in my honest fashion opinion.........

PA needs total revamp, not just one more set. Now light armor can provide same actual level of defence and have 2 good perks without backside effects such as huge weight, agility penalty, movement speed penalty and sneak penalty, which makes totally no sense. PA is old Fallout was really must have to be one man army, and what now? Any piece of clothing is better than legendary high-tech armor.

Perhaps the best way I've seen to handle PA in FO3/NV came from a FO3 mod called Impervious Power Armor that basically turned Power Armor into FO1&2 armor-the armor had both DR and DT, making it truly difficult to penetrate.

That would be the ideal way to give PA its teeth back, so to speak, because right now it just doesn't cut it. The extra 5-6 points of DT generally aren't worth it when compared with the lost benefits and added drawbacks.

Letting Power Armor support its own weight when equipped would be another ideal way to make it much better (and more lore consistent) than it currently is.

I modded PA in my game in exactly that way, and now it actually feels like you're a 'walking tank'. There is one problem with doing this, though: the order of operations for applying protective layers is DR--->DT, which means that the DR has a somewhat disproportionate effect on how much damage you actually take due to reducing how much damage the DT is applied against. For example: with 40 DT and 30 DR (a fairly reasonable combo for mid-low end PA), a 100DAM attack actually deals 30. Were the order of operations reversed that same attack would deal 42 instead, and for higher values the difference just keeps increasing. That would allow the blocking of most attacks while still leaving the tier 5 and some of the tier 4 weapons as fairly dangerous; under the current system, though, PA is actually a little too strong against some top-end attacks if DR > 30.

Note that I have also modded out the 'bleed through' factor, which means that all those popguns wielded by some factions are essentially worthless; the high-end weapons do enough damage that the B-T effect is not applied, so they are not affected by that change. In fact, that one alteration alone brings PA much closer to its original form as it filters out a lot of attacks that can otherwise get you nickel-and-dimed to death.

Oh, I see. You all want Power Armour. Why not settle at being happy that you got Muggy?

Your not sick mug hoarders, are you?

I am going to destroy you now, but then i'll reload a save because I love toaster too much.

Muggy imma leave you sitting with the remains of coffee for a week MUWAHHHHAAA

Untrue, that would have given more reason for other companies to develop power armor. They are in it to make money, and besides the chinese were getting into the action of power armor as well which would have made power armor even more important. Couple that alongside the fact that power armor did so much in the invasion of china(until it got bogged down by what I am sure was the sheer amount of numbers the chinese had) and power armor would have been something everyone would have wanted to get into. Also that wouldn't stop power armor from being in Big Mt., the scientist could have been doing their own test's on power armor that they got from west tec.

But, there is no more coffee. It is all dried up or dust not sense it has been 200 years.



You can't kill me, ha!

Oh, the Toaster said he heated up your refrigerator. Smoke it coming out of it, might want to come back home to fix that..

I want more power armor!!!!!!!!

I WANT MORE MUGS!
But no, you barely bring any home.

I never understood all this mad love for Power Armor, I almost never use it

Too late, we've won, look to the moon. *You gasp, for it is pink with a Lenin face on it.*

good thing i never wear power armor or i'd probably be as pissed as you guys

Honestly, I'm more curious about the lack of EW perks. :shrug:

I'm more curious on why everone is having "AVE, true to Muggy", "AVE, true to Toaster" or both as their signature.

We must be more popular that that Caesar guy! Or those people with the Bear.

We demand more Mugs and Toasters!

Im fairly disappointed in the fact that there was no power armor. I was also hoping for some kind of automatic energy weapon. (Even something small like they did with Vengeance in FO:3)

This 100%
:foodndrink:

Mainly because I love Muggy and Toaster. I have since they were revealed, just even more so now.