I've never thought of bandits as guards or warriors, just people who happened to pick up a weapon and know how to swing it. Even a trained warrior could be totally thrown off by their friend suddenly dying in the middle of conversation right before their eyes.


Maybe, but not necessarily. Certainly not every NPC acted the same in Oblivion, they had courage statistics which determined whether or not they would run away in a fight. I don't think it would be hard to implement different behaviors in those types of situations using that same type of system. One person might stand there in disbelief, while another might run away, while yet another will react quickly and seek combat.

he bent down grabbed for his sword said whos there all as another arrow was being knocked time was slowed down and he probably had high sneak.

There are two confirmed Archery perks so far, a Zoom Perk and a Bullet Time Perk.

This was the Zoom Perk, not the Bullet Time perk.

The reason for the delay is because of the player's high sneak skill, as Todd explained each transition from one state to another is now affected by the player's Sneak skill, unlike FO3.

I think this was something they plan to fix as I remember reading somewhere that the guy said "I think I heard something!" as his buddy was dropping dead. Probably just a minor AI glitch

I read in an article somewhere time was slowed but youre right sneak has an effect .

You are throwing around magical magicness meanwhile dragons roam the sky's and you are worrying about realism.

You've known your friend for 20 years, doing the same treasure hunting routine over and over. Just another day's work. You just had lunch and a nice conversation about the local village cuisine. Not expecting anything to happen today, your friend suddenly gets killed with an arrow. You are in a state of shock of what just happened. It's not going to be "awe you punk, I'm going to get you!"

Umm, ok so you dont want realism in your fantasy videos/games? OK, lets say we remove one aspect of realism in Skyrim for instance. Ahh, ok lets say that trees grow upside down in our fantasy would of Skyrim. Dont you think that unrealistic look to the trees would be totally stupid looking? We need realism within our fantasy world to help make it believable and to immerse us into the story and feel of the game. To give it depth and meaning! To not have realism within our fantasy world would look stupid! You swing a sword at an enemy and cut him but instead of hurting him you tickle him and he starts laughing at you. That would be unrealistic and completely stupid!!! Guess how many people would buy a game like that? VERY, VERY little if any!

Not to mention you dont know which way to go in order to get the guy that did it and it may take a minute for the arrows angle and how youre freind was standing to decide which way you think it came from.I dont see it as major perfect naw the al isnt gonna be but i doubt it will be bad.

Of course one could argue that in a fantasy setting, anything is possible.

That's sort of the point.

Then you put on your sword and run to hack his head off.(no dismemberment in this game i know but you know what i mean)

You'll probably see an improved AI mod on the PC; seeing as consoles are limited and can only do so much, nowadays it's a game of give and take.

also realistic human responses to situations

Witcher 2
or read some
a song of ice and fire

Youre right but guess how many people are gonna buy this game ?Alot it could be better may need tweeked could have had time slow on i read it somewhere in an article and sneak effects it so possibley you could have lower sneek if you want faster response .W e will just have to see but it isnt no where near that bad is all im saying i wouldnt buy a game with tickle swords for sure but ill buy the heck outta this.

The thing with the guard is a lack of animations in my honest opinion. That's not do to lack of realism but game development. The guy should roll, or sprint... anything besides basic "shoot bad guy" animation.

Sure, in a fantasy world you can have anything you want but there must be some sort of realism or its just plain chaos and stupid looking. Or at least it must have some sort of validity within that world.

Actually, if you take a closer look, you can see that you after you shoot the first guy, the second enters in combat mode... He picked his sword...
But he doesn't know where you are...

Maybe it would be better with voices acting there...
Like: HELP!!!
And other people from the dungeon go there...

Or he could start searching the area there... Saying: Come out and fight me, you coward... / I know you're there, come out now! / I'll kill you...



OOOOHHHHH ------ http://youtu.be/tALfR1VKnrE?hd=1&t=1m30s
if you pay attention, they are talking...
Can someone try to listen to it, see if they are talking non-sense?

That's because he's talking about something else completely. I got that from another poster the first time this was brought up.
To be honest, I'm more disappointed with generic "bandit" enemies again! You'd think the bandits would get more friendly towards you if you slaughtered every guard in the game. But no. . Biggest failure of TES in my books, making the factions initially hostile to he NPC transparent.

Reposting my transcription from a previous thread:

Female Bandit: We're just supposed to sit here while Arvel runs off with that Golden Claw?

Male Bandit: If that Dark Elf wants to go on ahead, let him. It's better than us risking our necks.

Female Bandit: What if Arvel doesn't come back?

[Female Bandit one-shotted by PC arrow. Male Bandit enters combat stance.]

Female Bandit: Are we supposed to sit here while Arvel runs off with that golden claw?
Male Bandit: If that Dark Elf wants to go on ahead, let him. Better than us risking our necks.
Female Bandit: What if Arvel doesn't come back?
Male Bandit: Oh, he will be. HE WILL BE.

Perhaps the character in Todd mode had too high sneak skill level, so the transition was too slow, and the time has slowed as well...

The end result can be what we see in the demo.