They were similar some years ago, when both used the first two of the four numbers, but ignored the tens and ones. Now that AMD uses the tens, nVIDIA stopped using the thousands.

nVIDIA also jumps around from year to year now, using their numbers differently, so it's a great deal harder to keep track.

Radeon Nr ........ GT200 ......... GTX400

HD n200 ......... n/a ............. n/a
HD n350 .......... 210 ............ 520
HD n450 .......... 220 ............ 430
HD n550 .......... 230 ............. ---
HD n570 ........... --- .............. 440
HD n650 .......... 240 ............ 450
HD n670 .......... 240 ............ 550
HD n750 .......... 260 ............ 460
HD n770 .......... 270 ............ 560
HD n830 .......... 275 ............ 470
HD n850 .......... 280 ............. ---
HD n870 ........... --- ............. 570


Gorath

What are you talking about "no buys desktops anymore". If you want to game on PC you pretty much have to get a destop. Lap tops svck anyway. I don't see why anybody besides a travelling business man or writer would want one anyway. And what are talking about the Geforce 520 is Way better then the xbox's card. The Xbox came out more then five years ago. You don't know what your talking about.

Dude you don't know what your talking about at all. You can play Crysis on medium with a fricking Geforce 8600!

Way more then good enough.

An 8600 was a proper game playing graphics card four years ago -- the 520 is a modern, stupid tinker toy hardly better than the 210 / 310. It's not in the same league with any mainline card, such as a GTS 450.

A 210 is equivalent to about the 9500, and if look at there site the 520 is listed as "new". It's not top of the line but it is good for gaming.

That new card or my current stuff is way more than good enough? :blink:

Maybe. There is a review that runs the 5570 through Fallout 3. You can make guesses at how it might perform in Skyrim.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/16

A lot depends on what resolution you intend to run at.

If I were strapped for cash I would wait until the game arrived and then buy a card. The prices should go down, not up, and by then other guinea pigs will have take all the guesswork out of "what works" for you.

Edit: a 520 is lower then a 9500, according to toms hardware. You'd be better off getting a gt220 then a 520. The 220 is a few tiers higher.

Just because it's a "new" card doesn't mean it's good for gaming. Crap is crap, regardless if it starts with a 2 or a 5. You can game with it, without a doubt, but is it worth it? Nope! nvidiA likes to shine it's [censored], and call it new, but those cards are thier for svckers to buy. And they'll only buy them once, after being disappointed that there "new" cards don't live up to half their expectations, and theyll pony up for higher end cards next go around. Take it from me, I've bought a pc a few years back that had a gt120, this is when they first changed from 4-3 digit naming, and I was told it was great, it had a whole 1gb ram, and after I started gaming and realized it was just a rebranded pile of dung I never bought another lesser card again. Read up on cards before you buy them, don't buy lesser cards(below _50) if you want to play at high resolutions and modern games. Unless you think playing at low settings is fun, buy a good card.

any advice or rating would be nice thanks.

Why are you getting 12gb ram? If your only gaming you will never use more then 4. I have 8 myself, and have never once used more then 4.

What's your CPU? Get the k version if you want to overclock anytime in the future. Not familiar with your brand of graphics cards, but I'm sure 800w is not needed. I have a 570 and a 650w psu.

cool, i ddont know much about pc building and i thought it would be great to have spare rams incase for another computer??. i forgot to mention my cpu is a quadcore 1156. and thank you so much Tylerryan.

Never skimp on the PSU, other guy that said 650 is enough, probably right, but it's always better to have a little overhead in case you want to crossfire or add on some extras.

Having said that, a QUALITY PSU is the better buy that a more cheaply made PSU with higher wattage. took for the 80+ gold standard (a mark of efficiency, which usually means using high quality parts and proper assembly)

Thank you thankyou Thank you again. 800 watts sounds perfect for me . Good stuff right here people.

The 210 is worse than the last nVIDIA IGP, three years ago, the 9300. The 8600 and 9500 were the exact same card, just a thinner wafer, MILES better (KMs if you're not stateside) than either one of the 210 or 520. The 220 / 230 were the ones that were close to the 8500 / 9400 pair (same card, two names, two years).

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1216347-unofficial-will-my-pc-run-skyrim-thread-7/ the computer I have,so will it run Skyrim maybe?

Okay, so I'm planning on acquiring a few upgrades for my PC soon (Likely mid-september), but I thought I'd post for some opinions on how it fairs currently. I realize it's nothing more than speculation at this point, but I'd appreciate feedback.

Processor: Intel Core i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

RAM: 3GB (Planning to upgrade to 4GB)

Graphics Card: Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 (Just upgraded this not too long ago, but I may upgrade again if need be.)

Power Supply: 450W(I think, I'm not entirely sure as they didn't make it obvious.)

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1218089-unofficial-will-my-pc-run-skyrim-thread-8/.