That was my point.


I suppose red glare could be some kind of laser weapon.

it will not be that fixed remamber your actions your choices make couires past like it makes ulysses also people remamber ed may now be like yes man for new vegas but now you have the enclave

I swore at the beginning of the game, the courier was suffering from amnesia which was caused by the gunshot wound. Now apparently he/she doesn't suffer from amnesia, if that is the case, what's the whole mystery about Ulysses if the Courier already knows him? I mean wouldn't the courier recognize Ulysses' voice in the audio logs in Old World blues??? Wouldn't the courier already know why Ulysses turned down job offered by Victor?

Could be, or Ulysses' saw the Courier deliver the package that turned The Divide into what it is today. The package could have activated long after the Courier had left, thus leaving the Courier with no idea what he had actually done or why this man is after him.

Chris Avellone better not give my character a back story. I actually like to roleplay.

^ This. Most definitely this.

My thought was because "The Rocket's Red Glare" is a line from the American national anthem which refers to the rockets fired at Fort McHenry by the HMS Erebus during the war of 1812.
The achivement probably refers to an explosive weapon.


I thought the Divide was caused by some weather experiment from The Big Empty.

Maybe, but I thought whatever took place at the Divide that caused the storms happened a long time ago in the Fallout Universe

Oh I know the reference. Just saying it could be a Laser Based weapon as well.


Yes, that is what happened, but my whole thing is, the Think Tank has never stepped foot outside of Big MT since before the war, unless the device for the experiment was shipped on a drone, a courier carrying the package would be the next logical choice. Also, considering the comment Ulysses made about the Courier bearing a package and not knowing what was in it, that's the conclusion a lot of people have come to.




"The Divide is a land torn apart by earthquakes and violent storms, where a major meteorological research project was undertaken by Big MT, in the vicinity of Hopeville. The event was said to have split the earth, destroying entire companies of NCR soldiers and cutting off supply lines along Death Valley Road and the Carson Pass Highway, granting Caesar's Legion time to recover after their loss in the First Battle of Hoover Dam."

Taken from The Vault.

yes because apparently you somehow escaped the womb had the father of choice inceminate the mother of your choice in the town/city/state/country of your choice in the hospital of your choice with the doctors of your choice and the birth option of your choice. Oh im guessing you chose when you went through puberty as well im also sure you chose when you would die as well as when your heart gives out as well? Look grow the [censored] up! Certain things we can choose, certain things we cant. The character is a basic blank slate i.e its mostly up to you. Some linearity and character development is essential to making a great story which because of the lack of such in the "MAIN" game it is kinda stale in motivation to do anything. A good main character needs at least a minimal back-story otherwise its just pretty dull. Notice I used the term, "MAIN" game as in this DLC is completely optional, you dont want to have your RP ruined, dont buy it or just skip all dialog and bam.

yes because apparently you somehow escaped the womb had the father of choice inceminate the mother of your choice in the town/city/state/country of your choice in the hospital of your choice with the doctors of your choice and the birth option of your choice. Oh im guessing you chose when you went through puberty as well im also sure you chose when you would die as well as when your heart gives out as well? Look grow the [censored] up! Certain things we can choose, certain things we cant. The character is a basic blank slate i.e its mostly up to you. Some linearity and character development is essential to making a great story which because of the lack of such in the "MAIN" game it is kinda stale in motivation to do anything. A good main character needs at least a minimal back-story otherwise its just pretty dull. Notice I used the term, "MAIN" game as in this DLC is completely optional, you dont want to have your RP ruined, dont buy it or just skip all dialog and bam.

I like how you say "Grow the (expletive) up" when you're the one acting irrationally. Blowing it way out of proportion in an attempt to make it look unreasonable is not a very good argument.

Using some new censorship (expletive)

Not all of us hates what you hate, if you dont like it, then dont buy it, its simple



Courier have now a minimal backstory, deal with it,

My point is that everyone is acting like a 5 year old child [censored]ing about how, "ooo if I dont get what I want im gonna be so maaaaadddd!!!!" If you dont want a backstory simple dont buy the DLC on first day, wait for a review and when it comes out if it adds a backstory set in stone avoid the DLC. Some of us like actually having a set backstory so that we can roleplay from there.

I wonder if they rewrote the re-nuke the earth story from Van Buren for this DLC. Maybe the Divide is a missile field and Ulysses wants to eliminate all the crazy meteorological events so the nukes can be fired.

True enough, and if it had been known from the start what things you could choose and what things you couldn't it wouldn't be as annoying.

The Vault 101 backstory is pretty obvious from the beginning of Fallout 3 and you create your character around it. New Vegas on the other hand seemed to offer a true blank slate with nothing forced upon you apart from the fact that your character is a courier. I don't think it's unreasonable that some people might be unhappy with the idea that their own personal backstories for their characters, who they might have been roleplaying since they got the game and invested a lot of time in, could be about to get blown away by the final DLC suddenly decreeing extra facts about the game's protagonist.

Am I the only one happy about E-DE getting upgrades? It is my favourite companion along with Veronica.

You know guys, maybe we should wait until Lonesome Road actually comes out before loving/hating on the supposed back story introduced with it. The hometown hero achievement may not be meant to be taken at face value.

Frankly, based on the Courier's dialogue with Graham in Honest Hearts I'm surprised that anyone actually believes that he or she originates from the Divide. The Courier can't be too familiar with the area since they ask Graham what he knows about it. He or she may have been there once or twice, but someone who grew up in the Divide would probably be familiar enough with the region that they wouldn't ask others to tell him or her what's there.

You've completely missed the point. For one, it's not as simple as just not buying it or skipping all of the dialogue, as I want to experience the content. Also, you should really lay off of the strawman fallacies. I never said that I chose intimately all of those random things you listed, but my characters generally have backstories and personalities that help me shape what I do in the game, strictly. A fixed backstory will ruin a lot of them, though I will just change them if they do end up adding a birthplace. All I've been doing in this thread is speculate based on the achievements and sharing my opinions on what could happen. Your nonsensical tirade was unwarranted, and it was particularly unwarranted to tell me to "grow the [censored] up" and to call people who don't want a backstory akin to 5 year olds. Difference of opinion is not grounds for insults.

By the way, yes, I will be pissed if they added a backstory (though I don't recall actually saying so in this thread, I could be mistaken). However, that is not a threat or anything, just an expression of how I'll feel about the matter.

I HOPE ALL OF YOU REALIZE THAT THIS BEGAN AS A DISCUSSION ABOUT ACHIEVEMENTS. :disguise:

And it still is. The stuff about backstories is coming from what the "Hometown Hero" achievement can imply, and is IMO perfectly relevant.

This.


While I am a bit upset that it appears the Courier will have a specified Hometown (makes things difficult for my RP with Ruin), I think it can be worked around, will take some effort, but it should be able to be done.


Also: As this topic is reaching post limit, I've made a topic to continue discussions http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1219241-lonesome-road-acheivements-ii/

We know that ED-E was supposed to be delivered to an Enclave military base. This probably suggests that a location in LR might be an Enclave base or that we'll meet up with some characters who have a connection to the enclave. Another possibility is that we might see some other creatures that are like ED-E that we can get the upgrades from.



The name suggests that we're going to be dealing with the history of the divide. There's a quote that goes something like "Those who do not understand history are condemned to repeat it." Whatever happened to the divide in the past, the courier might end up doing again. We know from another achievement that there are several warheads in the Divide. Perhaps they have something to do with what happened to it.



A lot of other people have been assuming that this provides the character with some back story, more specifically suggesting that the courier originally came from the area. However, it's possible that this could refer to Ulysses, another central character in the DLC.



A lot of what we know about Ulysses relates to pre-war America and this achievement title appears to be pull straight from the star-spangled banner, possibly suggesting weapons that are connected in some way with the pre-war US of the Fallout universe. It could also be a reference to a large number of explosive weapons found in the DLC as other posters have suggested.



This more or less certainly implies that there are nuclear warheads in the Divide and that they play an important role in the story. In OWB we learned that Ulysses was interested in meteorological data at Big MT, possibly suggesting a connection between these warheads and the weather. Given the condemned to repeat it quest, we may have to make a decision between detonating the nukes, essentially repeating history, or making some other decision.