I 'converted' from Fallout 3 to Fallout: New Vegas - and the most noticeable difference was that lack of feeling isolated. Population is great and all, but the feeling of isolation in a post-nuclear game is brilliant. The fear of stalking death claws, with no one to back you up at all - that's what Fallout 3 felt to me. But New Vegas, I can just run to the road and there's guaranteed to be a number of patrols - and I'm always near settlements, which I wasn't before on FO3. Maybe it's because of the map size, I don't know. But I miss that isolation

Anyone agree/disagree?

Not really, I hate playing Fallout 3 in some respects because going from New Vegas you feel like you're surrounded by Cavemen. New Vegas, NCR, they're actually rebuilding Pre-Waresque societies. In D.C. it's basically, 'Dunno, I found this here fancy Pre-War tech' 'Uh....dude.....that's a lightswitch. It's not that amazing'

I feel like Fallout New Vegas actually improved upon what Fallout 3 brought to the table, namely because D.C. is just 3 settlements, when in reality, in 200 years, societies would vastly change and develop.

I like Fallout 3 better than Fallout NV. As u say, u feel much more lonely in Fallout 3, as theres is few "camps" outside of house, towers, citedal's, etc. In New vegas, there are basicly NO town's that are sorunded by walls. Come on, even big town in Fallout had walls :facepalm:

And the mini encounters - there happend so many "random" things in F3. After completing all quest, found all special weapons, got to the max level, it's just not that fan anymore :confused: I Fallout 3, you could just roam the capital wasteland, and have as fun as u started :rolleyes:

Yep. I loved the random encounters and all the dungeon crawling, but hey I'm an Elderscrolls fan too.

All my exploring in NV is pretty much- hey look, another dry lake with big ants.

FO3 I would travel waaaay across the map just to explore the various dungeons. And grab loot.

But I have to say I would miss weapon mods and the reloading bench, but not much else.

The problem with that is Fallout took place in a dangerous time period shortly after the Great War and the dust settled down, Fallout 3 which is well long after the Great War still goes by this logic, and yeah, it does add to the 'post apocalypse' setting, but logically it's very stagnant in D.C. in terms of progress. It took over 200 years just to see real progress there.



While the random encounters are fun, I disagree, after you do everything in Fallout 3, it gets dull. I still find ways to be appeased in New Vegas. But, different strokes for different folks.

Prefered New Vegas way of things having full made factions and civilization but I do love FO3s setting the only main downside for me was the city’s they felt really under populated or didn’t do anything with the outside world just 4 merchants really or how rivet city was to goody goody (the main city of the game shouldn’t be that).

They needed to have traders going from megaton, tenpenny towers, Canterbury Commons to rivet city, slavers and slaves going to and from tenpenny towers
Scavengers as well some friendly and some bad around the wastes like trying to find proper tech not just walking randomly.

With the BOS they could of set up bigger defence around the citadel and could of had more outposts around DC and could see patrols from the citadel heading off to the outposts and back.

The outcasts could of been used alot more and given more outposts in the wastes and perhaps set that if a player clears one or two buildings from raiders they become out posts as well with some outcasts assaulting old military bases.

As well as improving towns to have more then 4 NPCS (Looking at Canterbury here).

If FO3 had that, that would of gave the world a better feel of things happening in the world and not just populated by evil things.

I agree with pretty much all of what CNC and the OP said; I liked Fallout 3 more than New Vegas for the survival feeling it gave off and the bigger variation of places (I've said this a lot). I think New Vegas had better features (aiming down sights, campfires, reloading benches, ammo subtypes, etc.) but Fallout 3 had a better atmosphere.

I sorely miss Fallout 3's Metro and it's random encounters. :homestar:

I love FO3, I still play it frequently and It's deffo my favourite of the two. However, FNV is also a brilliant game, and does improve a lot on FO3. I came late to the series, and I agree that FO3 is really more of a great post-apocolypic game that features some fallout themes, but not really a Fallout canon game.