Crash Entering Cheydinhal

Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:32 pm

Since this destroyed my weekend, Friday through just now, as far as Oblivion is concerned, I figured I might as well share... Long story--short, I am dropping KD's old NPC circlets out of this setup. :(

The long story...

From Friday... My PC couldn't get into any gate or COC into the Cheydinhal Mages Guild even, without a CTD during the loading screen. At first, I figured I'd removed the mods I wanted to try taking out for stability testing at an untimely moment. However, no matter how I shuffled plugins in and out of my mod list that had been activated between the PC's last departure from Cheydinhal and his return, the crashes persisted.

An hour ago... The only thing that came to mind was that he had recently begun coming across many circlets and started wearing them. I was early on suspicious about their appearance's possible relation to my game's decreased stability. Still, my PC had worn them before...so, the last piece was his companion, following him. It is known but not understood?? why companions wearing headpieces can cause crashes during fast travel, and I figured this could be something similar. Therefore, after randomly COC-ing around successfully into other establishments and finally back into Cheydinhal, the main difference I noted was the absence of my PC's companion. First, I tried out my hunch by first taking away all of his companion's inventory. Success. I repeated the process but only took away the circlets. Success.

'Now, KD's circlets are being uninstalled. I've been using that mod for a long while, but it's not worth the CTDs...and it left me feeling a bit bitter over wasted weekend.


Masters for: stillNeedToClearThatFort.ess
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Cyrodiil.esp [CRC: 19F94DEE]**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp [CRC: C4A670A0]**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp [CRC: D8008DEB]**  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp [CRC: 2745BE37]8F  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D] [CRC: 98D5A0B5]**  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp [CRC: D59DAD68]90  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV] [CRC: 73C98CBF]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 574DE475]91  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV] [CRC: 6DC9FA83]92  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: FCAAF7EE]93  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: FA560808]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: D8BF78E7]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: 812F4410]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: F97BDB3C]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: 67F2D66F]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: 0FD90101]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90] [CRC: 6D793919]++  PMSneakySummonCompatibility.esp  [Version 1] [CRC: 8FBC3374]94  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993] [CRC: 2EF8A56A]**  bgIntegrationEV - 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MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 3.1.29a] [CRC: FC018BB3]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03] [CRC: 55B9D683]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: 8565EC88]9D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: A9DC4427]


Removed Masters (stillNeedToClearThatFort.ess):
? Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp

? RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp

? Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp

? Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

? Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.32 DT.esp

? Enhanced Grabbing.esp



Added Masters (Active Masters):
? Streamline 3.1.esp


Ugh...
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:06 am

Nothing like finally getting down to the root of the problem. Even though the weekend was wasted, a lesson was learnt :) Oblivion is a cruel teacher though... For most others, as you would definitely know, crashes happen without known causes that lead to wicked frustration and another bout of "restartitis"....
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