MP - Too easy?

Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:12 pm

Hi,

Nooooooo.. this is not an ego-stroking thread.

I was playing C2 today and realized that I don't get much fun out of it anymore. It's nothing to do with the issues, it's just too easy.

All the game dilutes to is run around in stealth and picking people off who are not running in stealth or who have come out of stealth to kill someone else. It's made even easier as Radar's are so powerful, long and effective that you more or less chase little red dots on this game, the footsteps are also so loud you can hear someone from a mile off.

I really fall to understand why so many people are bad at this game. I am awful at shooters, I've put in a few hours into Black Ops, BFBC2 and Halo and I am S**T at them so I am no FPS prodigy. Yes, I only put a few hours into them so I wouldn't be amazing but still I was good at C2 from the start.

I think it is too easy for a few reasons;

1) Strong Aim Assist - No need to aim, I find it very hard in the aforementioned shooters to hit on target. I can't seem to miss on C2.

2) Radar's too prevalent made worse with the 20% longer duration bonus from Retriever 3.

3) 99% of the players are noobs and haven't even reached 1st reboot so they can only kill you if accidently run into a group, make a mistake or their host. It was the first time in weeks when someone literally outplayed me today, I actually said out load "well done". I went 40-0 playing on my own in TIA yday and it was only because they seem incapable of following their radar and thinking.

4) Awful modules making everyone use the same setups. This inevitably makes everyone play the same so there are no diversity of play styles. You don't have to adapt or learn anything because everyone is playing the same. When you play with the best they all do the same thing, you run past each other, circle a few times and the first person that lucks out and hits the other first usually wins... so easy.. no thinking involved. Why I don't play Private Matches not much skill in it.

Watch someone like the MarkofJ on youtube on Black Ops and this is what I call a true FPS prodigy.. a beast. I have seen the best and the tactics employed by them and myself are not beast... stealth... run around.. unstealth.. kill... stealth.. rinse and repeat. Nothing beast about that.

5) Unlimited stealth - Modules promote stealth abuse so how often do you really get killed while in stealth? Probably 1/40 of my deaths are when I was in stealth so you are more or less invincible, the less time you stealth the more times you die.

Again, I have been playing Black Ops recently and this game TO ME is Hard!! It involves multi-situational thinking, better reflexes and aiming, more diversity of weapons and gamestyles that could kill you and air support. You have to THINK! as you are not in stealth 95% of the game so you cannot run around all game at your own leisure to freely pick people off while in stealth like C2.

I am not a COD Fanboy like some of the immature here might assert I think the game is ok... all I'm saying is that compared to other shooters this game seems like a walk in the park and I cannot fathom why so many are dog-s**t at this game.

Peace..

p.s. trolls are welcome.
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Judy Lynch
 
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:57 pm

I agree with you in a couple of things, the less you cloak the more you die, so stealth enhance is a must, lvl 2 removes your shadow in cloak so every other cloaked dude look stupid invisible with a shadow, and lvl 3 gives you double time of "less dying", if you add energy transfer to that the game becomes really boring and is exactly how you describe it, BUT there is a lot of players that actually play with other modules and have fun...

if you play like that is beacuse you care too much of your K/D ratio, and you probably play IA and TIA, maybe some crash site to kill some people while they try to play the objective, try playing extraction or assault...

and thinking in black ops? come on man, unless you play search and destroy there is no tactics or thinking, above all when you say that you cant miss in C2 is because in black ops the guns are so inconsistent that killing a player is a matter os luck more than skill.
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:17 am

what I meant with Black Ops is that it is just requires a lot more skill to be really good than it is in C2.. most games I can hardly see anyone getting 3KD+.. except in youtube videos. People die a lot in Black Ops.. because they are many many more things that could kill you and a lot of deaths are completely unexpected..

With C2 everything seems kinda calm, expected, predictable... it's just a lot easier to play than other shooters. If you're amazing at BO then kudo's to you because I cannot fathom how anyone can get 3 KD+ on that game.. while getting a 5.2 KD on C2 (which I have on my alt account) is a walk in the park..
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:14 pm

Wow. Did I really read that? "with Black Ops is that it is just requires a lot more skill to be really good than it is in C2"

Because that is just not true. All COD games depends more on luck rather than skill. C2 depends on understanding the weapons, modules and suit powers. Also, C2 has a way bigger learning curve than for example COD. Maybe C2 is easy for you know, but keep in mind you have played it for pretty much ages now. For a new player, I would any day bet you that he/she would have a harder time learning the C2 multiplayer than any COD game's multiplayer.
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:24 am

Lets be honest this is an ego stroking thread. If it wasn't an ego stroking thread then you would never have made it what you would have done is try a bad module setup and crappy weapons to make the game harder for yourself not make a thread boasting about your 5.2 KD infact I saw a topic where you said "My 5.2 KD is proof of my superiority" how sad is that and I bet you dashboard which is even sadder.
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:47 am

its a bit stpid for u to say that cod takes more reflex's than crysis seriously -.- and your forgeting u say its easy but it easy cz ur good im pretty sure 95% of this community disagree with hyou on that one.
you should never compare crysis to cod because there would bew a lot of skill if there was as many players as cod has,you think cod is hard try bfbc2.
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:55 pm

Ok guys you win... I should have expected that a post on this forum with an opposing opinion wouldn't be well received without name calling and accusations.

When I play BO it's like there's something there which I cannot fully explain which keeps stopping me from beasting.. it's so dynamic and random I cannot formulate a strategy. That's why it's hard in my opinion. I struggle to get a 7 killstreak! Whereas in C2, everyone plays more or less the same, just run around full speed in stealth, chase red dots, un stealth, kill, stealth. Nothing really unexpected happens - except random grenade now and then.

C2 is easy in my opinion.. my brother watched me play for a couple of hours and within 15-20 hours he is now a 2.5 KD player (that was in a week!) and he stopped playing because it was too easy. Those were his words. He said the only reason he does so well is because everyone is running around like un-stealthed so it's a turkey shoot.

I agree with Blacknish it is possibly due to the small amount of players which is what I said in the OP.

I am not arguing that C2 takes LESS SKILL.. I am saying it is EASIER because there's not much variety in gameplay and not that much unexpected can happen to kill you. When I watch someone on youtube play Black Ops and the whole thing looks like a montage and then go 120-4 it looks a lot more impressive than any 40-2 that you would see on C2 (in TIA).
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:12 pm

again what you say is very true but you have to understand that they are too totally different games, cod is all about controlling a cirtain area and kill or do your objective, where as crysis its all about your speed your stealth and your strength you should not be seen.

If everyone started with the same modules everyone had mob 3 stealth 3 energy 3 and all other things 3 you would find this game much harder,it so easy for us because we were pretty good anyway.

Some one once said why are high level harder to kill which is really true not just because of skill but becuase our suit is far better far stronger than there's, which makes them giv up before there even level 30 there for us better players are always playing against low levels so its not just the game its the people.

Btw if i dont respond its because im gone i respond o you later :D
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:37 am

I understand your point. I think it is probably due to your play-style choice. Crysis 2 is more favourable to those who play it tactically, using stealth. Black ops can be very random, I play like a mad man and typically always have a ratio of 2.0 or above. I can very rarely get away with doing this on Crysis 2, all I can say about C2 is that I almost always go positive, but that's about it. I just hope the community doesn't go dead before I can master it.
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:22 am

I understand your point. I think it is probably due to your play-style choice. Crysis 2 is more favourable to those who play it tactically, using stealth. Black ops can be very random, I play like a mad man and typically always have a ratio of 2.0 or above. I can very rarely get away with doing this on Crysis 2, all I can say about C2 is that I almost always go positive, but that's about it. I just hope the community doesn't go dead before I can master it.
i hope so too
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:25 pm

Its not challenging... you can do the same thing in every match... you can't lose if your in a good party...
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:44 am

I agree with what you said. I am a very average player, but on this game i can be a god SOMETIMES.
I went back to Mw2 today, the 1st time my crysis 2 disc has been out since i bought it. To say i was bad, was an understatement ! Crysis 2 has detuned me for all other shooters ! Still gonna get BF3 thou.
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Post » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:11 am

if you focus on unlocking all the dog tags and modules , that will show you all the different ways to play .
I do believe that stealth is imperative , its best to have at least 1 energy use reducer such as , having energy transfer , stealth enhance , or mobility enhance . a basic set up is energy transfer with stealth enhance and mobility enhance , to change that a little would be to remove the mobility and swap it for rapid fire , thats a small change but a more drastic aproach would be proximity , stealth enhance , load out pro , i like to use single fire Grendel with the L-tag , lets you spam a crash site to work towards your 1000 kills ,and then for those that get too close get out your grendel and focus on headshots . this game can be as difficult or as easy as you want it to be ....
I seen players that barely cloak and focus on armor and stay in the open and beast its all about tactics .
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