The Enclave wins

Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:17 pm

We stand now, at the precipice. A great nation once more threatens to crumble, to topple into the sea of lawlessness and despair that have ruled us all for over two hundred years. In short, my dearest America, we are at war. Even as I speak these words, fearless Enclave soldiers are fortifying their positions at the great water purifier. Bracing for an inevitable assault. The Brotherhood of Steel, in their arrogance, has claimed Project Purity as their own. They would steal the Enclave’s work. Steal America’s water. It’s only a matter of time before the traitors march on the purifier, and attempt to take it by force. Let them come. Wave upon, traitorous wave will crash upon the Enclave’s walls. The Brotherhood of Steel will fail. All those who oppose the Enclave will fail. I am President John Henry Eden, and this is my pledge: No one, No one will take this great nation away from me! God Bless the Enclave. God Bless America.

A touching speech is it not?

Autumn’s goal who wanted to capture the Purifier so all of the Wasteland would seek aid and protection of the Enclave.

The Arrogant Brotherhood what was there goal? Ask yourself the only reason they attack the purifier was because the Enclave had the G.E.C.K there. What was there goal? The same as Enclaves, to distribute water and have everyone running for the BOS to get help. Did the people in the wasteland honestly care whom won the purifier? I just finished a play though and all I can say is no they didn’t. They may have even had a little more support for the Enclave. The only people who did care about the Enclave winning were the Arrogant Brotherhood.

Who do you think would really be best to own the purifier? My Vote stands with the Enclave/Autumn (Exluding Edens F.E.V) they both had the same idea and both wanted the same thing. The brotherhood just said it in a different way.

Thank you Mr. President. People of the Capital Wasteland, I am Colonel Autumn. By now, you have encountered Enclave troops in your towns, in your settlements. When you see the Enclave, you see the United States Government. We are authorized to restore order and civility, by any means necessary. Just stay out of the way and let us do our job. Interfere with the Enclave’s mission, and you will be dealt with, harshly.

I think the BOS is full of it the Enclave speaks for what must be done. The Enclave is back America, we’ve brought clean water with us! For years, Enclave scientists have been hard at work on the most ambitious scientific endeavours the world has ever seen. Project Purity. Imagine America, millions, millions of gallons of water made fresh, clean, and completely pure. In a matter of minutes, and it’s all for you. Just a little bit more time, that’s all we need, and the purifier is ready for continual operation.
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Solène We
 
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:25 pm

Well I personally have my doubts in Autumn's ability to command, the nature of his position and how he aquired it and how much support he has over the rest of the Enclave. Whilst I agree that the Brotherhood's only reason for engaging the Enclave was that they themselves didn't have the purifier - there is literally no other reason that they could have known of.

I do believe that Autumn could establish a more effective version of what the Brotherhood was attempting to do in Broken Steel it just doesn't strike me as anything of the landmark victory for the human race that would be just inserting the FEV.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:11 pm

When you think about it. Nethier Autumn nor Eden's plan is all that bad. Certainly not "evil" anyway.

Autumn's is essentially the same as the Brotherhood. It would just be the Enclave running the show.

And if I may, Eden's isn't that "evil" either, although it is more extreme. Eden's plan takes care of all the mutations and hostilities of the wasteland. Think about it. At least 70-80% of the population of the CW is made up of mutated animals or people who are insane or killers. There's Talon company, the slavers, mutants, raiders, and all manner of vicious creatures. The only "good" settlements are Megaton, Rivet City, and Big Town/Arefu (neither big town nor arefu have a population of more than 10 either). The Citadel and Brotherhood are miltary opposition so wiping them out is just part of war, and Tenpenny Tower is mostly high-society nitwits with a perchance to blowing up towns.

Eden's plan takes care of all of that.

Bethesda tried so hard to make the Enclave out to be the "dark ones" but they really did fail.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:54 pm

When you think about it. Nethier Autumn nor Eden's plan is all that bad. Certainly not "evil" anyway.

Autumn's is essentially the same as the Brotherhood. It would just be the Enclave running the show.

And if I may, Eden's isn't that "evil" either, although it is more extreme. Eden's plan takes care of all the mutations and hostilities of the wasteland. Think about it. At least 70-80% of the population of the CW is made up of mutated animals or people who are insane or killers. There's Talon company, the slavers, mutants, raiders, and all manner of vicious creatures. The only "good" settlements are Megaton, Rivet City, and Big Town/Arefu (neither big town nor arefu have a population of more than 10 either). The Citadel and Brotherhood are miltary opposition so wiping them out is just part of war, and Tenpenny Tower is mostly high-society nitwits with a perchance to blowing up towns.

Eden's plan takes care of all of that.

Bethesda tried so hard to make the Enclave out to be the "dark ones" but they really did fail.

I'd say Autumn is "meh" He tried to hard almost. He shouldn't of just walked in to the purifier and started demanding things.

Eden I'd say is evil or more bad, whatever you like.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:35 pm

I'd say Autumn is "meh" He tried to hard almost. He shouldn't of just walked in to the purifier and started demanding things.


Eh its a hostile takeover. He did what he thought he needed to do.

Eden I'd say is evil or more bad, whatever you like.


More bad. But certainly not "evil" when you consider that most of the things he would plan to kill are "evil" themselves.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:03 pm

Eh its a hostile takeover. He did what he thought he needed to do.


They turned a memorial to one of America's founders into a water treatment plant; I'd say that that's fair cause for the Government to step in.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:02 am

They turned a memorial to one of America's heros (I assume) into a water treatment plant; I'd say that that's fair cause for the Government to step in.


Good point. It makes for a casus belli anyway.
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Post » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:02 am



More bad. But certainly not "evil" when you consider that most of the things he would plan to kill are "evil" themselves.

I support that too I never thought the F.E.V evil like just an extremely effective way to clean the land of mutants. Hell most of the population is radiated anyway Vault 101 I think would be the main source of survivors. I don't think they would be affected. So theres some recruits.
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