A friend of mine absolutely loves RPGs but can't get into Ob

Post » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:16 pm

A good friend of mine is a huge RPG fan, when i found out he hadn't played Oblivion yet, i told him to start playing it. He had finished Fallout 3 and the DLCs and loved it, so i was expecting to hear the same about Oblivion from him. But for some reason the game just can't hold his interest. He calls it a low-action RPG, it feels aged (weird cause i actually find it hasn't aged that much at all) and says he will continue playing though. He hopes that after 100 hours he might start to enjoy it....very weird. He's 10 hours in, but the game just doesn't seem to 'start' for him, he can't get into it. He also finds the quests not that special and too long, and lack the boost to press on.



Right now he'd give Oblivion a 86 and.......Two Worlds 2 a 87. He absolutely loved Two Worlds 2, and i don't understand how a RPG fan could place Two Worlds 2 above Oblivion. Don't get me wrong, Two Worlds 2 is not a bad game, but it doesn't touch a TES game. Of course it's all a matter of opinion,but i just can't understand how someone who loved Fallout 3 and also Two World 2 can't fall in love with Oblivion. The RPG of all RPGs..in my opinion, that is. I remember all too well when i started playing Oblivion, it was a matter of minutes and i was hooked to it. I remember trying to do story quests but i kept being distracted by sidequests. He's looking forward to Skyrim incredibly much..but i'm seriously doubting that game will be for him. And i told him that..but he said 'Hey it got dragons..and i LOVE dragons...so even if the game would svck incredibly much, it got dragons, so i must have it' .

I still think he's doing something wrong, he's missing something...i want him to see the beauty of Oblivion, but what can i do? Probably not much...:)
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Post » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:22 pm

He doesn't sound like much of a rpg fan to me. I'm not saying Oblivion is the best rpg ever, but a real rpg fan should still enjoy it.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:30 am

A good friend of mine is a huge RPG fan, when i found out he hadn't played Oblivion yet, i told him to start playing it. He had finished Fallout 3 and the DLCs and loved it, so i was expecting to hear the same about Oblivion from him. But for some reason the game just can't hold his interest. He calls it a low-action RPG, it feels aged (weird cause i actually find it hasn't aged that much at all) and says he will continue playing though. He hopes that after 100 hours he might start to enjoy it....very weird. He's 10 hours in, but the game just doesn't seem to 'start' for him, he can't get into it. He also finds the quests not that special and too long, and lack the boost to press on.



Right now he'd give Oblivion a 86 and.......Two Worlds 2 a 87. He absolutely loved Two Worlds 2, and i don't understand how a RPG fan could place Two Worlds 2 above Oblivion. Don't get me wrong, Two Worlds 2 is not a bad game, but it doesn't touch a TES game. Of course it's all a matter of opinion,but i just can't understand how someone who loved Fallout 3 and also Two World 2 can't fall in love with Oblivion. The RPG of all RPGs..in my opinion, that is. I remember all too well when i started playing Oblivion, it was a matter of minutes and i was hooked to it. I remember trying to do story quests but i kept being distracted by sidequests. He's looking forward to Skyrim incredibly much..but i'm seriously doubting that game will be for him. And i told him that..but he said 'Hey it got dragons..and i LOVE dragons...so even if the game would svck incredibly much, it got dragons, so i must have it' .

I still think he's doing something wrong, he's missing something...i want him to see the beauty of Oblivion, but what can i do? Probably not much...:)

I think it just a matter of different taste, especially if he loved TW2.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:59 am

Eh, I can understand where he's coming from, at least. I consider myself an RPG fan (that is to say, I'm in love with games like Diablo 2, Fallout 3, Dragon Age, ect.) but when I first got Oblivion, I found it to be incredibly hard to get into.

Really, it could be a loooot of things. Oblivion is a pretty big game, and there is -a lot- to discover all around, so it can be somewhat intimidating.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:26 am

im guessing its because oblivion is such an old game, dont get me wrong, its probably my favorite rpg game out there,but by the time skyrim comes out, it will be about 6 years old (it came out in 2006) compared to two worlds two which came out in 2010. also in my opinion, two worlds two took allot of ideas from oblivion and made them more enjoyable, like their lockpicking mini game. that of course does not make or break a game, but if he already experienced most of what made oblivion such a revolutionary game in another great rpg like tw2, it would probably spoil some of the fun points of oblivion.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:55 am

im guessing its because oblivion is such an old game, dont get me wrong, its probably my favorite rpg game out there,but by the time skyrim comes out, it will be about 6 years old (it came out in 2006) compared to two worlds two which came out in 2010. also in my opinion, two worlds two took allot of ideas from oblivion and made them more enjoyable, like their lockpicking mini game. that of course does not make or break a game, but if he already experienced most of what made oblivion such a revolutionary game in another great rpg like tw2, it would probably spoil some of the fun points of oblivion.



You got a really good point there. I had forgotten how much ideas they took from Oblivion in Two Worlds 2. I had already finished Oblivion and put 100+ hours into it before i started with Two Worlds 2...so it makes sense.
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Post » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:08 pm

Maybe it's just not his game. He might enjoy different things in an RPG than dungeoneering and progressing skills.

I've never played Two Worlds so I can't comment on similarities.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:19 am

Tell him to try roleplaying. Create a backstory for his character and try to "live" in Cyrodiil rather than beat a game. Do what his character would do, and act realistically.
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Post » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:11 pm

Not familiar with TW 2 so I may be off base. I think to really enjoy Oblivion, one has to break free from the traditional idea of being told what to do. Many people say they want to be their own boss, yet most work for someone else. Many people say they want to chart their own destiny in an RPG without constraints, yet many seem to struggle with a truly open sandbox where the lonely question, "What do I do now?" demands to be answered by the player, not the game developer.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:25 am

I remember the first time I played Oblivion I got out of the tutorial dungeon and asked the person showing it to me: "Now what?"
"Whatever you want."
"Really?"
"Yeah."

"..Cool."

Acadain really nailed it. I was used to the game lining up challenges and throwing them at me. Having to seek out challenges was weird at first.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:17 am

Not familiar with TW 2 so I may be off base. I think to really enjoy Oblivion, one has to break free from the traditional idea of being told what to do. Many people say they want to be their own boss, yet most work for someone else. Many people say they want to chart their own destiny in an RPG without constraints, yet many seem to struggle with a truly open sandbox where the lonely question, "What do I do now?" demands to be answered by the player, not the game developer.


You just took the words out of my brain :P.
And I agree I had a friend who loved rpgs (Final fantasy), and simple could not get into Fallout or Oblivion because he simply was overwhelmed with the things to do. Most games now a days are extremely linear, so getting used to a wide open sandbox game tends to be rather difficult. However I had another friend, when he stayed over for a couple of days here just fell in love with Oblivion, and guess what? In the 50 hours of play time, he never did any quest, he was so freaking addicted when I woke up he would be playing. :twirl:

If I remember in TW 2, it was kinda sandboxy, but it would limit you on where you could go depending on where you were in the main quest, not that sure though.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:47 am

He sounds like no rpg guy. Even players who don't much enjoy rpgs very much still would like oblivion to a point.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:03 am

finished Fallout 3 and the DLCs and loved it, so i was expecting to hear the same about Oblivion from him.

Maybe he doesn't like the medieval/fantasy atmosphere of Oblivion and prefers the semi-sci-fi atmosphere of Fallout3? I know I adore Oblivion because of its fantasy environment and cannot play more than a half hour of Fallout3 because of its apocalyptic sci-fi atmosphere. I don't like the Mass Effect series either, for similar reasons.
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:42 am

He doesn't like oblivion? He must have oblivinitis! But fear not I know the cure:

Step 1: Slap him. Nice and easy this one, works for people with mild oblivinitis, if he has severe oblivinitis proceed to step 2,3 & 4.

Step 2: Punch him. Another easy remedy here that you can do by yourself, though boxing gloves are recommended here to avoid self-injury to knuckles.

Step 3: Throw him out the window. Here's where it gets complicated because you might need help trying to get him out the window UNLESS you can convince the patient it's for his own good ( which of course it is, oblivinitis affects 1 in 3 people )

Step 4: Last but not least, throw him from a rooftop. Now convincing the patient to do this is extremely hard so this step is a 2-3 people job. Another difficulty is assuring the people who are helping you will not be prosecuted in case the treatment goes wrong ie breaks arms,legs,neck you get the idea.

If you've successfully applied all these steps your friend is now Oblivinitis free! YaY! And ready to explore Cyrodiil to it's fullest.

If symptoms re-occur repeat procedure.

On a side note it might also be worth mentioning that only in extreme cases and I state again EXTREME cases this treatment doesn't work but will give the uncured patient a notable side effect which is, every time you see the game oblivion in a shop, round a friends house or on a website you will [censored] your pants, so it's recommended to avoid game shops altogether to avoid unexpected surprises.

Hope this helped! Let us know how you got on!
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Post » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:57 am

A teenager in my house - and I know this is going to be hard to believe - likes linear RPGs like Dragon Age but not Oblivion. I might try out some of your suggestions, DaveC. :)

Will let everyone know if she survives.
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Post » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:09 pm

Lol @ DaveC :lol:

I don't know what to say on the OP. He loved Fallout but can't get into Oblivion. Weird. :blink: Does he like other medieval-based RPGs? I'm unfamiliar with Two Worlds.

I would actually agree with him on the "low action" part. That's one of the things I like about Oblivion....it's not always fighting, fighting, fighting...enemies coming from behind every rock & tree. The fact that it's "low action" gives it a spookiness, because you never know where the next enemy is lurking and stuff.
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