As long as there would still be some races without a crippling weakness. So that people who aren't in to that would have something to pick.


(Personally, I've never picked anything in Oblivion with a big weakness, race or birthsign. Of course, I also tend to forget about any activated powers, so.... :shrug: Yeah, I pick my race by looks mostly. So, based off the presets they showed, only choices this time are Imperial or Nord..... depends on how much customization you can do.)



edit: yeah, Altmer had the doubly-whammy against them in Oblivion. Kind of strange looking, plus the racial weakness. Nope, never played one of those. :tongue:

I do play Altmer Atronach as well, but the thing is - you need to actually counter the drawbacks, it is easy enough, true, but only if you put some thought in to it The other races simply have nothing you have ro work around :shrug:

breton were very vulnerable in lower level with out shield (which weakens spell casting same goes with armour) a bandit archer could easly kill breton because of low health and armour restriction on spells

breton are only strong against magic untill in later levels when there magic can by pass the armour and shield restrictions

it is shocking at how people are so anti breton when its clear skyrim is warrior orientated game

later level warrior specialize in specific melee weapon type with archory and shield perk for sprinting and being resistant to magic at same time rendering mage kyting tactic void

leave the breton's alone :violin:

Here's just a couple ideas, just to give an example of how it could be done:


Altmer - Keep them as they are, they're fine and already balanced
Bosmer - Bonus to running speed and/or firing speed with marksman, swings slower with two handed weapons
Argonian - Keep as-is, though perhaps a frost weakness would feel fitting...
Breton - Minor magicka bonus (more than everyone else but less than Altmer), no other bonuses besides this
Dunmer - Keep as is, offering an all around well-balanced race.
Imperial - Keep as-is: no strengths and no weaknesses, aside from Voice of the Emperor being useful in unlocking quests (helps the player bypass meeting other requirements to obtain quests)
Khajiit - Increased running speed and jump height. Suffers from a 50% weakness to all poison, disease and negative alchemical effects (for example, where a poison might remove 20 agility for an imperial for 20 seconds, the Khajiit loses 40)
Nord - Keep as-is. Frost resistance and Woad, nothing more. No major strengths and no major weaknesses, offering a balanced warrior race.
Redguard - Can swing swords faster, slight running speed increase, takes twice as long to cast spells
Orc - Has minor magic resistance (30%-50%) and swings axes slightly faster (15%), has a constant +5% damage resistance, runs slower (10-20%) than other races


It's not perfect, but just a rough idea. This way, we have 5 classes that offer noticeable benefits and weaknesses whereas another 5 remain very bland, letting players build them up as they please, with a bland race in every gameplay style (Combat, Magic and stealth).

I like your idea's for benefit/weakness but...


Who in the right mind gives a warhammer, war axe or a claymore to a BOSMER?

Yes. Too late though, we have seen enough racial powers to see they're just bonuses.

Yes I'd also like more diverse quests and possibilities depending on your race.

Do we know them all or just tidbits of info on some?

That would be pretty cool, but it would most likely not happen. Female/Male quests could happen though.


Altmer's get to join a small group of Summerset Isle mages, Orcs have a quest to do with smithing an amazing piece of armor, etc.

We don't know them all but all racial powers we've seen so far were just bonuses.

Ask Glarthir where he got his.

Well that's a damned shame.

The races system has potential; potential that has been recently cut down to an extent by the removal of attributes. They should expand upon it and exploit it more, and this would be a great way to do it.

Or the Atronauch where you practically have to kill yourself to regain magic.

Glarthir had a dagger though, if I'm not mistaken? Plus, warhammers would look extremely silly on Bosmer bodies, most likely about as half as big as them.