Reverse-Pickpocketing Poison

Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:25 pm

I doubt it's going to be as simple as dropping a poison vail in their inventory. You probably need to add it to food or wine.

Then you slip it into thier inventory :ninja:
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lydia nekongo
 
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:24 pm

Rogues do not have a combat skill in their skill tree.

Reverse pickpocketing poison to harm or kill an enemy in a stealth like way seems to me like a good idea.

Edit: And as someone who has studied chemistry I can assure you that there are many, many toxins that are readily absorbed through the skin and are quite lethal in large enough doses. Easily available too.
Nicotine is one that springs to mind.
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Post » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:54 am

My first question is Where has it been confirmed that sticking a bottle of poison in someone's inventory will poison them? It's probably like the poisoned apple from Oblivion, but you can actually TAKE their food, poison it in your alchemy station, and REPLACE it with a poisoned version.

Why poison someone? Probably because even the game engine won't know you did it. That means no murder count increase, no bad karma (Skyrims equivalent of infamy) and no guards taking you to jail. A guy dies from choking or some bad food, or whatever.

Someone mentioned will they turn up dead after you place the poison in their inventory? I doubt it unless they made a major change to the way the engine works. In Oblivion once you leave a cell everything inside it is basically placed in suspended animation. Only the CELL you are IN has any life in it. The rest of the world is shut off and dead for all intensive purposes. NPC's have packages and if any package is involved in your new cell they will be brought into it... but technically to kill someone with poison in their food you have to follow them around until they eat it when your in the same cell, or it will never happen. I hope SKyrim has changed this so there is a little more going on in the world than just where you are.
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Post » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:23 am

I've never thought of doing this in OB, but can you do it in OB?
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:07 pm

One thing to remember is it doesn't rely on the stealth skill. You could just walk through town, drop some poison on an NPC and as long as you weren't detected, leg it lol. Doing this with a poisoned dagger in the middle of town is likely going to get you killed/arrested.
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:59 pm

I'm going to fall back on the good ol' "If you don't like it, don't use it" defense. If you think the poison is too unrealistic, don't do it. You can stick to your sniping formt he treetops...and I'll slip poisons into everyone's pockets.
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:12 pm

Can we make exploding potions b/c I love putting grenades in people's pockets in FO3 =)
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:17 pm

I don't like it because the whole concept of it is stupid. I sneak a vial of something into someone's pocket and their response is "Hm I wonder what this is. I'm gonna drink it and find out."

Do better Bethesda.

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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:41 pm

I don't like it because the whole concept of it is stupid. I sneak a vial of something into someone's pocket and their response is "Hm I wonder what this is. I'm gonna drink it and find out."

Do better Bethesda.



maybe it's the same color as their usual vegetable juice :P
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:16 pm

Not having played the game, I don't know how exactly it would work. Is it simply putting a bottle of poison into their inventory? Or is it applying a poison to one of their items?

One benefit of this over applying it with an attack is if it worked like the poison apple/cursed item. It does them harm without tracing it back to you. With the attack, if it doesn't kill them, then they are now aware and if they were an npc then you will probably incur a bounty.

I doubt we will incur a bounty by sucessfully placing poisons on an NPC, but it probably will be a bounty if we are unsucessful.
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Post » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:18 am

There are many poisons that kill victim then he touches it.

So it's a perfect stealth-kill you can perform in a crowd without being cought! :toughninja:

Great feature!
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:54 pm

I don't like it because the whole concept of it is stupid. I sneak a vial of something into someone's pocket and their response is "Hm I wonder what this is. I'm gonna drink it and find out."

Do better Bethesda.


First, you don't even know how it will be implemented - it may actually show as an action with a needle or some sort of implementation method that indicates the choice wasn't theirs for the taking. Wait until you see it.

And no matter what, it will be better than the Tenshu games. "Ooooh, a rice ball, on the ground? Nummy..."
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:18 pm

But it's abstraction that has no real world equivalent. Hitpoints stand in for blood loss and organ trauma.


In a very very abstract way. There is no way anyone really comes to within a hairs breadth of dying (say 5% hit points remaining), lies down for a few hours and then is ok to enter another fight. More like months to recover and then maybe never walking properly again, or with only 1 arm or something at that level of damage.

In my opinion it's not any more of an abstraction to say that an NPC will eat a poisoned apple or something placed on their person just because they felt packish and thought they must have forgotten they put it in their bag.

It's just a new abstraction so it's unfamiliar and feels out of place at the moment, give it a bit of game time and I think it will fit right in for stealth chars.
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:28 pm

if people think poison is considered unrealistic perhaps they should look into the history of the KGB
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:01 pm

Even abstractions have to make sense.
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:24 pm

if people think poison is considered unrealistic perhaps they should look into the history of the KGB


Sure, comrade!

Although many historical characters ended up being poisoned by pages, cloth and in other similar occasions. Umberto Eco described poisoned book in his "Name Of Rose" (13-th century).
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:55 pm

I would consider it more like breaking the vial and placing it in a person's pocket. The reach into their pocket and cut themselves on the poisoned glass.In fact It could be visualized in so many different ways.

But even if Skyrim comes with an inbuilt genital-tickler I am sure people would complain that it was the right sort of tickling.
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Post » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:38 pm

how about there is no reverse pickpocketing and instead you can put poison in food, and it will affect the person the next time he sits down to eat?
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