The chainsaw doesn't require any ammo, but it does have a main restriction: it's weight. The chainsaw has a weight of 20 (same as the thermic lance) and the thermic lance is better all around, if anything the thermic lance is a bit overpowered.

That's pretty dumb thinking on their part then. :down:

The big thrill in Mad Max (beyond thunderdome) was when he got the chainsaw, was that it had gas and he could chase the giant around the ring with it... until it ran out. :chaos:

Why does the chainsaw work then? (or is it just a melee sword and doesn't spin?)

No, it spins and everything, there is just no explanation as to why it works. What's even more annoying is that the zap glove and displacer glove don't require ammo either, even though you can clearly see a small energy cell attached to them.

Three hits in VATS is very weak, some weapons can kill cazadores in two (the chainsaw takes about seven or eight hits in VATS to kill a cazadore). That's mid to low for a melee weapon so your main arguement is invalid. How long have you been playing NV? Have you even run into a strong enemy because giant radiscropions are pretty weak compared to some others.

Lets use an example so I can explain it in a way you can understand: I bought Alpha Protocal last year, I played it and really didn't like it. If I was using your logic I would force myself to play it all of the time. However I was being a sensible human being and I brought it straight back to Gamestop the next time I got the chance.

This part cracked me up, where the [censored] did you get the comvaluted idea any of us didn't think the chainsaw was overpowered because we want every damn thing in the game easy? I played on very hard and RPed so I could only care a few magazines of ammunition at a time when I had NV, that's not making things easy.

This part made me fall off my chair laughing, I am an old time hardcoe player, playing Fighting, Shooter, and RP games since the '90s, I hate things being easy. As you said before "Stop putting words in my mouth". And Logan's Loophole is a trait, and traits are optional.

First paragraph of this post proves it.

This.

It would be sad (and silly IMO) if it were actually a technical limitation of melee weapons.

*Which it sounds like it might be.

You would think they could script an ammo check and cancel the critical effect without ammo; or even load a different Nif if need be, when no ammo is present.

It might be a neat mod to try to implement a power source for these weapons. (Not by me though ~unless I miraculously finish the ones I'm working on.)

:foodndrink: Good argument, that should stop this useless thread in it's tracks.

Or the Ballistic Fist not jusing shotgun shells

Thank-you.

It has to do with the contact the chainsaw had with the cazadores. Since cazadores are small , the chainsaw attack must not have connected. Even with other enemies, if you use the attack from range, or the enemy moves away during VATs, the attack wont do damage since the player doesnt move to the targets. If you will try it against bigger enemies, you will see my point.

As for the anology you gave for alpha protocol, I dont see what you are trying to say. You didnt like a game, you returned it. What does this topic have anythign to do with that.

No it made contact, I saw its health go down while it was being hit each time.

I didn't like a game, I sold it. You don't like a gun you sell it.

:celebrate:

Dude, I just went and attacked a cazadore just to see this for myself. It died in one hit in VATS. Can you post a video of this please? 7-8 VATS hits to kill a cazadore, thats a must see. :toughninja:

EDIT: BTW How do you make special melee / unarmed attacks in VATS? I mean do i need to have enough skill points invested? Or anyone can make the special attack if you have the appropriate weapon.

You need a melee skill of 50 to perform special power attacks in VATS.

Why not just be happy with the realism in it? Hitting a guy with a chainsaw five times while little spurts of blood come out would be an immersion breaker for me.

Is a chainsaw a melee weapon?

I just used the thermic Lance with the same character (17 melee skill, 12 level). And it just makes the chainsaw look like Chinese pistol compared to an MIRV. I have never used melee weapons in fallout before. Maybe this has been the case since fallout 3 and I just used them now therefore am so shocked at how easy it is to use them. Maybe they always been like this.

Killing Giant Radscorpions is no great trick. I've been known to kill them with a 9mm SMG, you just need to have your tactics right.

Chainsaw ignores DT, and it's a third-tier melee weapon, on par with Knock-Knock. It's supposed to be this powerful.

Even in the hands of a character who has no points in melee? An Anti Material rifle can take out a Giant rad scorpion in one sneak attack shot. But if you have no points invested in guns, you wont be able to hit even a mountain.

I think its pretty realistic to tell you the truth. Don't believe me? Well then let me smack you with a chainsaw in real life and we'll see just how "overpowered" you think it is them.

Giant radscorpions are abit short on hit points. Above average DT but lowish on the health side. Plenty of Melee/Unarmed weapons can make short work of them.

Sorry, but you'll need to pick an enemy with more meat on it's bones before waving the "OMFG This is OP!!" flag.

According to the Official Game Guide for Fallout New Vegas, Giant Radscorpions have 150 health. The chainsaw, one is an automatic melee weapon, two does 100 damage when fully repaired. So yeah it makes short work of anything you put it to. To be truly effective don't use VATS. It is put in the game, because it's fun. I like running maniacally across the wasteland cutting everything down with that mechanical nightmare. Most of the power tools and appliances are powered by fission batteries and don't need fuel or ammo.

WOW, thats a real argument. Well let me smack you with a butter knife in real life and we'll see if you survive.