hi to all am tring to the elven madiens quest for the theives guild i am almost finished thing is that i cannot seem to charm lex its really making me mad can someone PLEASE HELP ME with this i tried a few charms don't seem to be working you can email me or whatever just need help thanks in advance if you can.

Ok one way to boost his disposition by an extra 10 points is to talk to him with your weapon drawn, persuede him up to max, exit dialogue sheath your weapon then talk again.
His disposition should be 10 points higher than before.

As for charm, have you tried ranged and touch versions as sometimes I've had trouble with the spell taking effect, and don't forget use several versions of charm spells.
Don't just cast the same one over as it won't stack if you just recast the same spell multipule times.

ty for your help please stay intouch i may need somemore help have not purchased the game of the year version i would like to but there is no way for me to update game on ps3 do u know how i can

You can't update it. The only way to get shivering isles on the PS3 is through the GOTY edition. You already have KOTN as that comes as standard on PS3.

thanks i kinda fiqured that am officailly a oblivion nerd my bf knows when i get on and play am never getting off i was kinda worred about being a vampire this is my second time starting from the beginning and am doing well finished the mages guild and working on main quest as we speak i did take some cure disease for the quest that i did where i had to go inthe dungen and fight the vamps. and am also working on the theives guilds i have the new doyen and getting far in the arena ok any suggestions would be nice thanks for your help.

For vampire dungeons I would say just use the potion once every vampire is dusted.
Otherwise you'll waste those potions on a very infectious but not very nasty disease, so just kill the vamps exit the dungeon then use the cure potion imo.

I like the thieves guild, if you plan on being a sneak I suggest you mark a cave on your map early, that is the one across the water from the waterfront district..
Just swim north west from the house you can buy there, it wlll be on the opposite shore called Droznot cave I think.
As it's of use when you need to pay a fine off, just fast travel there and head to the doyen by passing any guard.

hi and thanks again didn;t really understand about the dugeon thing unless u saying find a dungen to hide in and there are many of them where the houses if you want to still i was just going to try to get enough money to buy a house ok i have a question about the game of the year now when i get it do i have to start all the way from the beginning or what i had it before got it from gamefly but sent it back no knowing it was the add on the the reg game. i put it in my ps3 and it started me from what i was already saving now when i get it how to i start out and as u said there were new stuff like shiver Iss where does that start at when u fiinsh the whole game what quest does it start from and where does knight of the nine start off at. I had to read you reply again theres a nothing doyen in that particular cave you saying ok

Hi, I'm on a pc so unfortunatly I have no clue about the ps3 sorry.

About the cave, it's of no use except to fast travel to when you have a bounty on your head, as then you can swim to the waterfront to see the doyen there without running into guards along the way, I just find it a convenient place to know.
I should have been clearer sorry again.

Shivering Isle is started after playing the game for X amount of hours, just play untill a pop up tells you about a door off the coast of Bravil city in the Nibean.

Knights of the Nine, you need to head to Anvil city to find a preacher outside of the church there.
There's no pop up for this quest at first but if you talk to any priest in a city the topic should show up about a chapel attack.

When you get the GOTY, you will be able to use your old saves from the pre-GOTY version. You will receive a message about a Strange Door, approximately 24 hours after installing the expansion. If you make a save right before opening the door to the sewers to go outside, you can create new characters from that hard save, without having to go through the tutorial yet again.

Using punctuation will make it easier for us to understand your questions.

hi again ok got u am now on the GREAT GATE and its getting on my last nerve any suggestions am tring my best to get past this i did save just before they were getting ready to fight and if you already have a sigel key in your inventory why do uhave to get another i have the one that says KEEP i say someone do it on utube and they had just a reg lockpick i belive.

All I can suggest without knowing your skills, level and character is to turn the difficulty down a bit untill you feel relaxed enough to carry on playing..
I did this for ages as Oblivion has so many tricks and secrets to gameplay it can be overwhelming, so just relax and turn the difficulty down untill you're familiar with the game and character.

In any of the Oblivion worlds where a door is locked, there will be a Dremora Sigil Keeper who has the key. You don't ever have to pick a lock in an Oblivion world, that's just an alternative option for those who can't kill the Dremora. Keys fit the locks, so you have to get the one in that specific world.