Yeah, fog/clouds .. that what I meant with "dust" (sorry for the wrong wording).
And as you can see, the fog in that pic is drawn/painted.

I know. But most (if not all) console ports just don't work as good on PC as they could.
It's for example like your PC is 5 times faster than the console, but the game only runs twice as good on it (with same settings).

We will see, how good Skyrim will be optimized on PC.
As I wrote, Bethesda usually does an "ok" job at it imo. Not perfect, but still good.

360 screens or PC screens still old stuff because it not a finished product and its not PC footage so it s not a huge deal. Footage I mean moving shots not screens. bliviongate:

I keep seeing folk state this, but where has it been confirmed that DX11 features will be used?

I don't think it has, but it is likely that they will use the performance features y'know to increase performance.

I think that it's safe to assume that pretty much every game released since January of this year has used DX11 features. Do they really need to sit down and say it?

I find it unlikely, the game was in development well before DX11 was a twinkle in microsofts eye, the engine would have to be re-written to use the DX11 path and I'm pretty sure the creation engine was completed well before DX11 came out.

I don't think the engine would have to be re-written... lots of games use a few DX11 features even LOTRO, i don't think they re-wrote their engine to incorporate a few DX11 features.

They've said that they will take advantage of some optimization features of DX11, but no graphical features.

I'll wait and see, at best I reckon it will have DX10.1 features, it will be a pleasant surprise if they've incorporated DX11 features.

It has been confirmed, though I'm too lazy to find then link. Skyrim will only use DirectX 11 OPTIMIZATION features, but nothing as fancy as Tessellation or advanced lighting effects.

Yeah, I really do wonder how much better the PC graphics will be. I know in one of those interviews Todd was asked why they never showed PC demos, and part of his answer was something like they wanted to use the Xbox 360 as a baseline of what to expect and the PC would be a "step up," rather than showing the PC footage and setting expectations and have the other footage being a "step down."

I do hope we can get the choice of using keyboard and mouse as well as the xbox360/ps3 controllers. Though I think buttons and sticks can be mapped to keyboard and mouse controls via 3rd party drivers, so maybe in-game integration doesn't matter.

That's interesting, perhaps DirectCompute for havok?

That's not an entirely new experience for PC gamers. Even now my PC suffers from what I've been referring to for years as Balmora Syndrome. For the most part I expect that it will both look and run better than the console counterparts, on high end PCs, though.

Let me add a few more things.

I don't trust Todd any further than I can throw him. We were told alot of things about Oblivion, most of them were false.

As far as Skyrim looking better on the PC, it COULD look better if the devs took the time to do it. I don't believe Todd when he says they are doing that. It's going to take the modders to make it look better, just like with Morrowind and just like with Oblivion.

The reason we aren't see any PC screen shots or video is because there is going to be no difference. Showning it now would just anger the PC fans.

Do I have anything to back up what I said? Other than Oblivion, NO. Given that, I still stand by what I said... until proven wrong.

I sure hope not. The E3 footage was on the 360 and it looked like crap. PC should look 100X better. PC has always out done console when it comes to graphics. I'll be really disappointed if the graphics on the PC are the same as console. We should have a lot more scaling and adjustments.

About ten seconds after its done installing

Ya, that was sad, the texture res was 2007 and the forest didn't look any better than Oblivion..

It was terrible when the dragon picked up the giant and dropped him and he look like a physics-less frozen chess piece floating to the ground.

Keep in mind that it's a port from console to pc, pc can certainly have a higher resolution, but that could just refer to the monitor image and not textures, I suspect pc users will see the same texture resolutions as the console, unless either Bethesda release a texture pack or modders.

I would just find it odd they would just make a whole new engine that was already outdated before the first game based on it was released. It would seem like a big waste of money to limit your engine becuase of what current consoles can do today as they reach the limit of their lifespan. Even the console market is now waiting for next gen consoles.

That said I think we will see PC play when we buy the game and not a day before, which is a bit of a shame as I would like to see how they developed the interface for PC.

Not to mention you can do other things on a PC other than game or stream Netflix. hell if you know how to code or Model you can Make games on the pc.

Distance drawing limitless? Trees included??

I want to believe you, but....joder, it sounds sooo good that it seems too good to be true :drool:

is there gonna be a graphics patch like on crysis?
and how long do we have to wait for the exelent modder community to make a graphics mod like the ENB series for skyrim?