Very LOTR Inspired

Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:52 am

I don't see any fat hobbits in the game.

maybe a fat wood elf you see kids maybe you can see fat kids and be confused if they are hobbits or kids :foodndrink:
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Sophie Morrell
 
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:47 pm

A lot of fantasy games get the "LotR or Tolkien inspired" monikers. Nothing new here.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:44 am

Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy etc...

Nothing in this world is apparently original anymore, you can always find something it reminds you of.

If it was a copy wouldn't we instead be saying that the new TES game IS a LOTR game since copy means exact duplicate. I think the word you were trying to use is similarity. Things that are similar to other things remind you of those other things. Wording is everything.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:24 am

It has been stated that Skyrim is based on Robert E Howard's Conan stories. So, less Middle-Earth, more Cimmeria.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:38 am

Todd is talking about technology when he mentions Conan.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:51 pm

Any medieval fantasy = thank Tolkien.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:57 am

:rolleyes: See, I thought Skyrim was inspired by the lore of Elder Scrolls universe, not Tolkien's.

Seriously, Tolkien is great but the game Skyrim is not a copy of his work. When I play Elder Scroll's games, I don't think of Lord of the Rings, I think the Elder Scrolls.

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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:10 am

Todd is talking about technology when he mentions Conan.

I'd like to hear about that. Do you happen to have a link where he mentions this in a video or something?
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:21 pm

I didn't get a Tolkien feel when I saw the Skyrim demo so far. But of course, the ES series is a "Tolkinesque" rpg. Even in some names in Oblivion are exactly like in Tolkien. Btw, a lot of people are saying that they give Tolkien too much credit, that he copy other ancient writings and whatnot but like the saying goes, history is written by the winners not the losers. Tolkien seems to have beaten everyone else at their game and ironically even the ancient themselves(since many quote him instead of an obscure Norse verse)
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:20 am

Inspired by the same things that inspired Tolkien and Jackson, but I wouldn't say that Skyrim is directly inspired by LotR.


Some of it is. Yes, much of the similarities are simply due to them sharing influence from actual myths and legends of Earth folkore, but some things are straight out of Tolkien. Orcs were essentially lost to history until Tolkien revived them, and the common conceptualization of The Orc, name, appearance et. al is directly influenced by Tolkien, the Oxford Proffessor who dug that word out of annals of lost lore and dead language that most people had and have no appreciable knowledge of. You can bet your money that the Bethesda orc came from direct Tolkien inspiration, and not because someone on the writing team dug out the rare, obscure, 1500 year old scraps of text, in Old English and Old Nordic, Gaellic etc., mind you, that the Professor was taking inspiration from. The devs have specifically cited Lord of The Rings as a huge influence on their work, along with tales like Conan, so there is no need to pretend that the games are somehow void of Lord of The Rings influence. That influnce is NOT a bad thing.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:24 am

they are called bosmer :D


no...no theyre not. they dont have giant feet, they eat their fallen enemies, they idolize a giant walking tree....
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:38 am

That influnce is NOT a bad thing.

Right-o. What matters is how a writer develops and evolves his cliches and stereotypes. That's the innovation, and I think TES Orcs being the sons of a betrayed dreadlord is pretty unique to me.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:34 pm

Inspired by the same things that inspired Tolkien and Jackson, but I wouldn't say that Skyrim is directly inspired by LotR.

This. Other than the basic concept of magic, nothing is really based on LotR at all. Skyrim has it's own races,(Except orc I guess, though they are very unique) own gods and religions, own factions, own places, own materials, etc.....
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:38 pm

This. Other than the basic concept of magic, nothing is really based on LotR at all. Skyrim has it's own races,(Except orc I guess, though they are very unique) own gods and religions, own factions, own places, own materials, etc.....

Yeah. While there are obviously over arching similarities, as there are with a lot of fantasy. ES goes out of its way to differentiate itself from Tolkien work.
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:14 am

The best lore of all.... is that of the real Earth
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Post » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:51 pm

Everything is a copy of a copy of a copy etc...

Nothing in this world is apparently original anymore, you can always find something it reminds you of.


This

like that that quote says

Ecclesiastes 1:9

9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
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