Some Critics/Points over the "new" footage : V - Skyrim

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:52 pm

I don't agree with some of what you mentioned, as for the rest, I'll put myself on the road to disappointment, and hope for fix's for some stuff.

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:44 am

Part 3:

http://youtu.be/FJAB2QGna_g?t=2m8s : I assume his the same guy who was thrown around and bitten by the dragon. How is he still alive? :S
http://youtu.be/FJAB2QGna_g?t=3m37s : Ok, for starters, that's a pretty big jump but whatever... the point here is.. he reaches the ground and... again no encumbering effect? No weight? His wielding a bloody huge axe and armor!!! I mean.. even without any armor it would be weird.
http://youtu.be/FJAB2QGna_g?t=3m53s : I'm pretty sure Pete said something about no terrain deformation... so what is that?
http://youtu.be/FJAB2QGna_g?t=4m8s : No.... Just No.. Noooooooooooooooo... *sigh*

There are two guards with bows. Look closely.

Todd has GOD-MODE on. 999 health, that is.

I thought the same thing about the dragon-crash.

I liked that finishing move, actually.

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:47 am

OK AM I JUST TRIPPING OR AT THE START OF THE THIRD VIDEO WAS THAT A REDONE MORROWIDN TRACK PLAYING?!?? WTF WTF WTF WTF im freaking out HOLY [censored] JEREMY SOULE YOU BEAUTIFUL SON OF A [censored]!

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:15 am

May God have mercy on this forum. Holy [censored].

indeed

...im sad now :sadvaultboy:

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:12 am

Okay, can people please stop making this ridiculous point (no offense meant)? It's just bad AI design, and we have seen the same kind of behaviour in every iteration of this demo. It's not like the devs meant for him to "be in shock", they just made it that NPCs can only react if they can see the PC, or attacker in other cases. They seem to lack a routine for unclear situations with less data. He doesn't even scream or show any emotions that confirm that he's in shock.

Also, being frozen in fear is something you mostly do when you, say, see a car coming towards you and you have no chance of surviving.
Being a bandit standing guard and watching your friend get killed should make you do either take cover and try to figure out where your attacker is, OR make you panic and run for your life.

Ergo, there is a differance between being the subject of a hazardous action and being a beholder to said action.

Please discuss.

Good grief.

I think everyone can agree that it was probably an instance of the program not knowing what to do with Todd's character being invisible, but seriously. Has not one person on this forum ever dealt with someone in shock before? Or taken a first aid course?

The definition of shock is that you don't scream or show emotions. That's how shock works. Seeing your friend get killed in front of you can and will send you into shock. Please, please, please do everyone a favor and know what you're talking about before you say something. Because so far we have people advocating the viewpoint that every bandit in Skyrim used to be in the SAS.

I don't care if it's the result of a computer program getting confused: stop saying that you have any idea how you'd react in that situation unless you've been in something even close to similar.

» Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:01 pm

You guys could write a book with all these paragraphs! :disguise:

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:30 am

OK AM I JUST TRIPPING OR AT THE START OF THE THIRD VIDEO WAS THAT A REDONE MORROWIDN TRACK PLAYING?!?? WTF WTF WTF WTF im freaking out HOLY [censored] JEREMY SOULE YOU BEAUTIFUL SON OF A [censored]!

All the music is supposively original. Whether that was a redone piece of music which originated from Morrowind, or simply put in as good music for the demo, we don't know.

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:05 am

Good grief.

I think everyone can agree that it was probably an instance of the program not knowing what to do with Todd's character being invisible, but seriously. Has not one person on this forum ever dealt with someone in shock before? Or taken a first aid course?

The definition of shock is that you don't scream or show emotions. That's how shock works. Seeing your friend get killed in front of you can and will send you into shock. Please, please, please do everyone a favor and know what you're talking about before you say something. Because so far we have people advocating the viewpoint that every bandit in Skyrim used to be in the SAS.

I don't care if it's the result of a computer program getting confused: stop saying that you have any idea how you'd react in that situation unless you've been in something even close to similar.

Well, this is a pretty large bump, but only because my internet haven't worked up until now.

I've been in shock, I remember very well when one of my best friends almost got killed in an attack. I screamed like a little girl, and I was totally unable to move for two hours.

I don't mean that screaming should be the only emotional answer. Stiffening up, shivering etc could also be a likely response. Not that that is what we're seing in that video.

So please, try to comment my points instead of making presumptions about my personal experiences. I'm not saying that these guys should be commandos, What I'm saying is that people standing guard should act like they're doing that and not act like they were mugged on the street.

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:34 am

Dragon finishers are awesome.

Haters gonna hate.

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:31 am

You missed something in the first video OP~ when the archer guy fights you, his feet are sinking through the floor, and when he dies half his body is missing underground~ meaning theres gonna be aloot of terrain clipping~ theres alot of it present throughout the demo~

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:44 pm

I was just wondering why would they use an old build for their official demo?

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:54 am

Hmmmm.. despite agreeing with you on ost of the points i dont really mind the OB like combat or A'I Though i am hoping that it'll change from now and release. i really realy dont like the whole dovvvaaaahhhkiiinnnn!!!! shout after killing the frost dragon hopefully it'll be something that happens few and far between. but all i can really say is it's all a matter of personal prefrence some people like some people dont.

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:39 pm

http://youtu.be/FJAB2QGna_g?t=4m8s : No.... Just No.. Noooooooooooooooo... *sigh*

???

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:20 am

You missed something in the first video OP~ when the archer guy fights you, his feet are sinking through the floor, and when he dies half his body is missing underground~ meaning theres gonna be aloot of terrain clipping~ theres alot of it present throughout the demo~

Half his body isn't missing. It's the angle from the first person finisher.

» Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:21 pm

6:28 : I'm no expert in horse anatomy but i can tell there's something weird about that horse, i think its the back legs just don't have the right shape or something.. can't really complain about this though, maybe its some Skyrim specific breed. Its a fantasy game after all.

Have you not heard of draft horses? they are bred carry large loads...

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=huge+draft+horses&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ep0&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1024&bih=629&tbm=isch&tbnid=FEJH3IWtMz_kDM:&imgrefurl=http://discoveringbelgium.com/2011/06/27/belgium-draft-horse-museum-vollezele/&docid=VKkgdwWatfLFtM&w=1152&h=1065&ei=WSB2TvqgNcTTgQews8TJDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=354&vpy=299&dur=1214&hovh=216&hovw=234&tx=129&ty=150&page=2&tbnh=142&tbnw=166&start=12&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:12

Draft horses only make sense in the Alaska of Nirn that is skyrim... Big nord butts are a load. :facepalm:

» Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:33 am

6:28 : I'm no expert in horse anatomy but i can tell there's something weird about that horse, i think its the back legs just don't have the right shape or something.. can't really complain about this though, maybe its some Skyrim specific breed. Its a fantasy game after all.

Have you not heard of draft horses? they are bred carry large loads...

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=huge+draft+horses&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ep0&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1024&bih=629&tbm=isch&tbnid=FEJH3IWtMz_kDM:&imgrefurl=http://discoveringbelgium.com/2011/06/27/belgium-draft-horse-museum-vollezele/&docid=VKkgdwWatfLFtM&w=1152&h=1065&ei=WSB2TvqgNcTTgQews8TJDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=354&vpy=299&dur=1214&hovh=216&hovw=234&tx=129&ty=150&page=2&tbnh=142&tbnw=166&start=12&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:12

Draft horses only make sense in the Alaska of Nirn that is skyrim... Big nord butts are a load. :facepalm:

Or more likely:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_horse