Yea, you all know what am I talking about.
Every time you go and kick something, you jump out of your body to see it happen from a 3rd person veiw and in slow motion while at it.
I remember last time when I... o wai-
That doesn't happen. >_>

Seriously though, I've heard that you are not able to turn off those animations when you preform finishing moves.
I mean, finishing moves are great idea, but do I really need to have an out-of-body experience with them?
I believe that people who play in 3rd person won't have problems with that, but I play in 1st person and I find it a game-braking feature!

One of things which drew me to TES is fact that I can see everything from 1st person veiw (except your feet - I really hope that fix that too) and this ruins it!
It will totally break flow of battle and is huge kick-to-the-dragonballz to the immersion.

I came to these forums as visitor few times in past and saw people getting worried about every little detail which could break immersion, and they will now settle with this?
All I have to say to that is: ?0?z!!1one

I really hope Bethesda fixes this ASAP (if not possible now, I hope they fix it with a DLC/expansion)!
I'm not inerested in those 'kwel' and 'epik' animations since that's something childish and really doesn't fit TES that much (it's like Fable is making it's way into TES).
Nice feature for people who like that stuff, but please understand that not everyone likes it and have it forced on them is wrong.
Thank you.

Edit:
Stop replying with 'TES is filled with dragons, elves, magic and you are worried about [insert what you are worried about here]'-like posts!
I'm not talking about realism as much as I'm talking about immersion and making game believable (and those cut scenes really don't contribute to that)!

No offense dude, but you're in a room excited about a game about elves and warlocks... We're all friends with our inner child here. lol


I do get your worry, though I don't share it because for me that cinematic quality is only going to add to how absolutely epic I feel when I kick the [censored] out of dragons.

I agree, though there are some finishers that stay in first person, we saw a couple on the demo. One was fighting a bandit and Todd stuck him through, and the other was chasing down the theif that was stuck in the web and killed him from behind.

Its true, you cannot turn them off, doesn't really effect me though, Its not like Dragons, Argonians, Ice Wraiths, etc. are real either

I do prefer the 1st person finishers, but to call the 3rd person ones "game-breaking" seems like an absurd overstatement to me. All this talk of IMMURSHUN... so many people seem to be forgetting that as great as Skyrim is gonna be, it's still a videogame. It's not real.

I remember last time a dragon came crashing into my backyard...wait that doesn't happen...but it does in this video game?! Oh screw that...it's completely unrealistic!

I like the cinematic effect it has and think it's a great addition to the combat...so who's right? Well that really doesn't matter...it's in and I'm happy :celebrate:

I wouldn't call it childish.... because it's not childish at all. For me, is something nice to see, and I don't know how can not "fit"...

I'll play in 1st person, however I don't have problem with Finishing Moves; I like them. But I can understand what you mean.

Forced third person brings me down, man :sadvaultboy:
Can't wait for the game to come out.

Agreed.

In this kind of game, I like to roleplay as my character, and see everything through their eyes.... rather than simply guiding a character around the map like a puppet. Being thrown into third-person constantly destroys this.

I guess people who prefer third-person will never understand, but first-person for me is one of the most appealing things about the series. If they ever went exclusively third-person, that would be it. I'd lose interest completely, and would probably refuse to buy the game out of principle.

This seems like one big step in that direction.


I love how stupid people always confuse immersion with reality. I also love how every one of them thinks they're super original for deliberately misspelling the word "immersion".

:rolleyes:

Of course it's just a video-game! That doesn't mean video-games can't be immersive. Seriously. A lot of video-game genres are built around immersion...

I think that you are overreacting quite a bit. It's not nearly as bad as you describe, and your whole OP makes it look like you are splitting hairs for something to complain about.

To answer a completely unrealistic desire; this late in the game-development stage, they're not going to adjust the animations nearly as much as you want. There are less than 60 days until it releases, nothing that you mention will change. Deal with it like an advlt, or walk away from it. Simple.

With as condescending as your post is, I'm surprised you don't get banned as a troll. You really do come across as forcing a non-issue just for the sake of complaining. Calm down. The animations are great, if having a Miss Cleo moment every time you finish someone really bothers you, then maybe you are just much too sensitive. No game is going to go perfectly with your view of it, but if you can't see how the best parts of the game vastly outweigh the few flaws, then maybe you need to play a different game...

2nded

CPTH records, most likely, are the mechanism which handles the kill cams. They have condition slots and can be altered to not be 3'rd person or even to not happen at all by adding impossible conditions (Player.GetDisabled, or Alduin.GetIsID Carrot for instance). If it's a big deal to you, be sure to get it for PC as there will probably be mods to alter it to your liking.

Beth is not likely to regard this as something that must be fixed as it's not a bug. Anything they do fix will be via official patches and not DLC as it wouldn't be fair to only fix bugs for those who purchase DLC.

Someone hates something you like. They must be a troll. :rolleyes: Ban them immediately for voicing their opinion...

The finishers really should be optional, turn on and off like in Fallout: New Vegas or something. Then everyone will be happy. Those who want them get them and those who don't don't. And it wouldn't be a big deal either. Just add the feature and call it a day.

I really don't get how they could ignore such a thing though. You'd think they would have taken it into consideration.

I see your point, however they can't really do that with everything people disagree about. Some people like attributes, some are happy to see them go...have an on/off option? I know, I know...it's not the same. But making on/off options on stuff takes time and apparently they didn't feel it was THAT important and I for one, agree...

If someone goes "It can't be that hard to add an on/off option and they spend too much time on other stuff"...well in your opinion, maybe that's true. But we don't really know how difficult it is...and seeing as it's not there, it's most likely not something you just do...

Personally, I can't stand how people who disagree are branded as stupid. I also can't stand how people brand others as stupid, then resort to heavy sarcasm - a form of "wit" most 5-year-olds are capable of employing - to prove their point.

Of course video games can be immersive. I completely fail to see how forcing a 3rd person view completely undermines that though. A game's immersiveness is determined by the richness, consistency and believability of the game world, not playing the game through someone else's eyes. That's called role-playing. If you can't see the difference then maybe you shouldn't be questioning other people's intelligence. The moniker "IMMURSHUN" is quite plainly used as a reference to the numerous people on this board who bellow "but, but my IMMERSION" at the slightest sign of anything they disagree with, despite patently misunderstanding what the world means.



Yeah good point. We should just call them stupid instead.