I doubt NATO still existed by 2077, though. quote

I feel as if there would have been a greater need for NATO during the great war.

If China invaded alaska Canada then all NATO Members WOULD have been summoned to liberate alaska.


hmm just thinking, annex doesnt mean invade does it? surely that would have been an infringment of NATO agreements

on America's behalf!? lol

ummm the U.N. disbanded as the loading screen and nato is the U.N.s coalition if im correct

NATO was established as a western European counterpoint to the Warsaw Pact, dominated by the USSR. In Fallout's case, China is 'the other', not the USSR, so NATO would have waning relevance.

The Parties of NATO agreed that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all. Consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence will assist the Party or Parties being attacked, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area

If NATO did exist (as it probably did at some point in the fallout world, as it was created in 1949), my understandng is the basic idea with NATO is an attack on one would be considered an attack on all.

Edit: Quoting Wikipedia, which quotes the treaty:



Assuming the treaty was still in force, China invading the US would therefore be considered an attack on all NATO countries - Whats left the European allies, and also Canada. Since Canada showed some reluctance to allow troops to pass through its territory before 2076, I think its unlikely that NATO existed at this point.

If it did, in 2076 it would have had to have broken down - The US Annexed Canada, itself an act of war, in theory forcing the rest of NATO to declare war on the US.

The UK currently relies heavily on imported food to support its populace, if Europe was the reduced to bickering states the imports would dry up and a vast amount of the UK population would starve to death. Although after the population reached a level where it could support itself the UK was probably a fairly stable region varying based on the degree to which it was hit with WMDs.

The UK can in fact, support itself for food, but there are daft people in charge who prevent this. The unfortunate thing is, as soon as a nuclear war and collapse of globalism happens, the soil will be too irradiated to support more than a few million. Hell, with the resource wars, subsistence farming may already have become common, but being nuked would certainly put crop yields back before medieval levels.

I imagine that Europe is like the watelands of DC, but with nothing like the Vaults, Enclave or the Brotherhood. Something akin to Rivet city might be the best you'd get, but most Europeans would probably think megaton was heaven.

As a british person I cannot explain how proud I am of the empire we created based on fair trade and occasional bloodshed. All the greatstuff we gave the world like football and cricket.

But.... UK is nothing these days we would have been wiped. No one here even feels british anymore its full of immigrants..All about Australia's policy's on immagration.

Former glory at around 1950's time:


http://web000.greece.k12.ny.us/SocialStudiesResources/Social_Studies_Resources/GHG_Documents/British%20Empire%201910%20Map%2001.03.jpg

When i was little I could never get my head around how small England was and how big her empire was!!

Be proud America! you were once part of the LARGEST Empire ever on Earth!

Some say the British Empire never fell, it just changed continents (Americans).

FALLOUT 4 UK!!!!!!

Oh and dont get it twisted MONGOLS had largest single land mass which leads to the assumption they had the biggest

But GB had the largest In terms of size spreadout in the world.

And yes I beleive alot of British Navy would have survived a nuclear holocaust because of how far apart it was spread.