Would morrowind be better off under Dagoth Ur?

Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:44 am

I apologise if this thread is already in existance, somewhere back under the pages of general discussion.
i'm a huge Morrowind fan, and we already know that the player completes the prophecies, becomes the Nerevarine, and defeats Dagoth Ur in red mountain by severing his ties with the heart of lorkan. After that the hero Nerevarine takes off the akavir, leaving Vvanderfell un portected. (vivec doesnt count) After that lore tells us that oblivion gates open up every where in Tamriel and Ald ruhn is destroyed. After that the floating city puts in some work offing most of the populace.
My question is. Wouldn't it be better off for morrowind if Dagoth Ur did what he actually planned to do? Complete the akulakahn and drive the imperials from morrowind. But he would still be around when the gates opened up. I don't think he would want Morrowind to be destroyed by deadra.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:39 am

I apologise if this thread is already in existance, somewhere back under the pages of general discussion.
i'm a huge Morrowind fan, and we already know that the player completes the prophecies, becomes the Nerevarine, and defeats Dagoth Ur in red mountain by severing his ties with the heart of lorkan. After that the hero Nerevarine takes off the akavir, leaving Vvanderfell un portected. (vivec doesnt count) After that lore tells us that oblivion gates open up every where in Tamriel and Ald ruhn is destroyed. After that the floating city puts in some work offing most of the populace.
My question is. Wouldn't it be better off for morrowind if Dagoth Ur did what he actually planned to do? Complete the akulakahn and drive the imperials from morrowind. But he would still be around when the gates opened up. I don't think he would want Morrowind to be destroyed by deadra.

Anyone is better than the tribunal. So yes morrowind would be better with Dagoth Ur in charge. Atleast i think it would be.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:11 am

If Ur was in charge, then the events of Oblivion wouldn't have happened
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:24 am

I didn't really think he was that bad of a guy. I agree with wanting to drive imperials from morrowind. He didn't want a septim province. He wanted a united morrowind
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:50 am

Everyone would have become mindless Corprus Beasts or deranged cultists remember.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:56 am

Morrowind is stuck in a lose-lose situation.

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Under Dagoth Ur everyone is a brainwashed zomibe, him being defeated triggers the Oblivion crisis and Red mountain exploding.

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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:28 am

I say thats better than getting your homeland destroyed
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:56 am

Everyone would have become mindless Corprus Beasts or deranged cultists remember.

This is the correct answer. With just about everyone being in the mindless corprus beasts category.

No, Morrowind would not have been better off with Dagoth Ur. Morrowind was doomed as soon as the Heart of the World landed in that sea that would become Vvardenfell, after Trinimac ripped it out of Lorkhans chest and Auri-El fastened it to an arrow and launched it.

The Tribunal was the best of a bad situation, so to speak. If you really wanted to make a case for a "better off" discussion, ask yourself if Morrowind would have been 'better off' with Nerevar leading them, instead of the mortal Tribunal murdering him.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:23 am

If Nerevar had been allowed to live, hopefully Voryn Dagoth would either have not become Dagoth Ur or he would have been dealt with at the moment of his transformation. But alas all things in Mundus are subject to death and all things are doomed anyway, so Morrowind (and all of that world) will be destroyed no mater what transpires.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:31 am

I don't know. I still see him as bad guy.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:03 am

I liked Dagoth Ur.. :(
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:38 am

To Dagoth Ur's way of thinking, he was "saving" Morrowind by turning its people into "transcendant" lifeforms. If the Dunmer population either being killed outright or becoming infected with Corprus, most of those infected dying of the disease, the few survivors becoming mindless beasts eating their own flesh, and eventually transforming into higher states of "monsters" is your idea of "better off", then perhaps so. By any other standard, he was only "saving it from the invaders" by destroying it, and totally insane as a result of his association with the chaotic and unfathomable Heart of Lorkhan.

Consider that Dagoth Ur's demise (more importantly, the severing of the connection with the Heart) directly led to the fall of the captive moon Bar-Dau (sp?) onto the city of Vivec, and the re-eruption of Red Mountain, destroying Morrowind in a totally different manner than Voryn Dagoth would have chosen, but still resulting in its total ruin. It cleared the province of the hated Imperials just as thoroughly, although the Argonians quickly filled that void in ways even more offensive to the Dunmer.

I see it as a choice between two unthinkable horrors, not as "better".
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