Frequent CTD only when outside

Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:36 pm

UPDATE: Tried removing the game from the Programs folder, doing a clean boot, and disabling V-Sync and HDR to little, if any, effect.

I'm looking for some experienced help here with someone well versed in mods, load order, bugs, conflicts, etc...

I'm experiencing frequent CTD's when in exterior cells, not in cities or other interiors. It does not seem to matter where but they NEVER happen inside. They also seem to happen occasionally when fast traveling. Sometimes as can go for 10-15min without a CTD when outside but usually no much longer. The odd thing is that it's ONLY outside. Before the flame starts, I'm not a noob and I'm running current hardware... brand new in fact.

Specs
Core i5 3.4Ghz Quad-Core, 8GB RAM, Radeon 6870 1GB, 500GB SATA, Windows 7 64bit.

For mod management I'm running the latest OBMM & OBSE and using BOSS to sort my load order. I've also got my .ini tweaked with TweakOblivion. I am not running any DLC except for Shivering Isles, but I am running over 150 mods. I know this can be a problem but I've run this many before on an older machine and it seemed to work fine. Some of these mods are different from the ones I ran a few years ago but they are mostly updated versions which should perform better if anything. I've also tried to use as many OMODs as possible and all of the large mods are in OMOD format (MMM, QTP2&3, RAEVWD, Supreme Magica, Harvest, HGEC, LOD and many other small mods). Note that I read that MMM was updated to fix CTD issue in 355 so I updated to the latest version 37b3.

I have not played modded Oblivion since 2008 and I bought this new rig for Skyrim but I thought I'd rekindle the fire with some good old fashioned modblivion but it's difficult to enjoy when it CTDs every few minutes. Maybe it's a problem with conflicting mods or load order... or maybe it's a buggy mod? Can anyone help or give good advice?

What I have done so far....
--Used BOSS to sort mods (seems to work well)
--Removed Natural Environments and swapped for AWS (seemed to help a little)
--Isolated problem to exterior cells and fast travel. (12-16hrs)

See below for full list (long). Out of 172 mods BOSS recognizes all but 9 and they are all tiny mods.

======Load order (Long List)=======
Oblivion.esmAWS-Core.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Qarls_Harvest.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
AWS-Main.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
AWS-Nicer Weather.esp
AWS-Shorter Nights.esp
AWS-Water.esp
AWS-Tweaks.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
Rainbows.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
IWR-Lights.esp
IWR-Windows.esp
IWR-Shutters.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
New Potions.esp
PTFallingStars.esp
Qarls_Harvest.esp
RAEVWD Cities.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
RAEVWD Imperial City.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp
Guild Map Markers.esp
HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp
Improved Hotkeys.esp
AAbuiesdaqun.esp
alllll61-Saint Silver armor.esp
arme - excalibur.esp
Colourwheels sixy Lingerie HGEC.esp
Colourwheels_sixy_Sweetclothes.esp
Dancers clothes.esp
DFSL Leathery 4.esp
Diano.esp
Diano2_UltraLite.esp
Dungeon Explorer.esp
Elwing.esp
Gothic Fetish Outfit.esp
HentaiDarkLilith.esp
Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp
Hentai_Compilation.esp
HGEC Witch Queen Ritual Robe.esp
Lockbreaker.esp
Mage Leather Armor.esp
Marine Bunny.esp
Queensarmory.esp
Ryk_Swimwear.esp
Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp
sci-fi bow.esp
Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp
tda_WitchKingHelm.esp
witchkingsword.esp
DarkWindarmor1.esp
R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp
R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp
R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
R18PN - Lingeries.esp
R18PN - Spvssyn lauf Amr.esp
SchwarzeKatzeArmor.esp
sixyKunoichi.esp
Zombie Slayer Armor.esp
Gloria Armor.esp
Argent Iron Armor.esp
DianoArmor2.esp
JannetEveningDress.esp
Hentai_AthenaArmour.esp
Francesco's Optional Files.esp
Harvest[Containers].esp
Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp
Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp
Bandit Hideouts.esp
Hentai Mania.esp
Naughty_Joana_01.esp
Tona's_ModsStore.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
WOTFH_1.3.esp
HentaiMania2.esp
HentaiMania2_Merged_Nightmare.esp
Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
KoldornsImprovedLava2.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Colourwheels sixy Dance Club.esp
RandomGatesDontReopen.esp
AlmostNoRandomOBGates.esp
Leviathan Soulgems.esp
P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
sixlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp
Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp
Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp
LCE-addon.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_MMM.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
SM_NoSpellLights.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
MidasSpells.esp
DirenniAlchemyApparatus.esp
Deadlier Traps.esp
No psychic guards v1.2.esp
'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp
All+5AttributeModifiers.esp
UnlimitedTraining.esp
immersive_caves_manual.esp
Dark Dungeons.esp
Dark Dungeons - SI.esp
Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
Cava Obscura - SI.esp
Beautiful People.esp
BetterShack.esp
candlelight.esp
Colourwheels sixy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp
Colourwheels sixy Tavern HGEC.esp
Colourwheels sixy Ayelid Shrine.esp
Colourwheels sixy Oblivion OverHaul.esp
No More Annoying Comments.esp
No More Annoying Messages.esp
No More Annoying Merchant Comments - Combined.esp
No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp
Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp
lumi_enchantments.esp
LightSpellTorch.esp
All armor and SE armor playable.esp
Everburn_Torches-1921.esp
Triple_magicka-7315.esp
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:56 am

Have you tested this with a new game?
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:17 am

Uncheck mods that alter the exterior environment. See if that makes any difference.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:52 am

Uncheck mods that alter the exterior environment. See if that makes any difference.


Just those with an .eps or all the textures too?
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:34 pm

Have you tested this with a new game?


No, and I do have a clean version as a backup... will give it a try but OB is unplayable without significant modding... I'm hoping to avoid the tedious process of a complete reinstall then adding one mod at a time until the problem is isolated. Skyrim is so close that investing numerous hours in troubleshooting has limited benefit.

Looking at the installed mods and their order, does anything stick out as wrong... or do you see any inherently bad mods?
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:42 am

UPDATE: I tried removing the game from the Programs folder, doing a clean boot, and disabling V-Sync and HDR to little, if any, effect.

I also tried the "crash preventer" .dll for OBSE. It stopped the CTD on exit or to the main menu but not in game crashes.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:03 am

Any esp file that affects exterior cells.

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Etc. Prolly don't have to worry about the MMM stuff.
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