Ahh there goes that baseless and nosensical statement about how people want a reskinned 2.0 whatever and they add OBLIVION in the mix lol.

Sai you have no idea why people like those games then. get it in focus peeps, no one wants a reskinned game made by Beth, those are already availible. they want beth to stop cutting stuff, simple as that, TES fans are not really that demanding, you don't see serious threads demanding to be Daedric princes EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN DO THAT, you don't see threads demanding to go into a Daedric Realm EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN DO THAT, you don't see Serious Threads demanding outlandish things like time travel or rocket ships, but when they start taking stuff out Then you hear an up roar.

I'm just expecting the same experience as Oblivion. Anything extra will just be an added bonus. I'm tired of anticipating an amazing game just to play something mediocre.

I remember reading about for the first time on my website of choice seeing the trailer for the first time, and im surprised I could even sleep that night. I'd say was def overexcited for maybe the next couple months then I regained my composure. I fed my thirst of interest on youtube the website the eventual gameplay demo at quakecon and finally I am here talking to other fans. I commend the great TH and bethesda for creating a staple demo so satiate fans aswell as not spoiling the more important surprises for the game. The articles supplied by mags and sites are of there exploits are all contained to a certain and content is limited in the demos, so starry-eyed ethusiast like myself can search withut too much fear of ruining anything. As far as my expectations go, I've played 300+ hrs in TES4 so I have a solid base for what to expect, Oblivion with better graphics modified gameplay and elements there of. But I believe upon picking up the controller it will most definately feel familiar. I'm actually telling myself that it wont be that great or beyond what my imagination may perceive so that I can enjoy it for what it is. I already know being the kind of player that I am, that I take a moment to just soak in the awesome craftsmanship Bethesda has created. That when I play it will be the beginning of a great adventure.

Like, I know, right? They should have just made the game exactly like you wanted and it would be the most bestest game Evars! What jerks they are. :wink_smile:

O-well. It looks like Oblivion with a big [censored] shot of Fallout 3 up its ass. So, im excited! :intergalactic:

Awww gee, thanks Nemesis. What a pal, what a pal! :foodndrink:

The main reason to amply the DRM is to prevent piracy, but this is not correct it is only encourage it i cant understand why beth dosnt give us an option to install it via steam or use a none DRM disk check version.

Here are quotes from http://torrentfreak.com/spore-most-pirated-game-ever-thanks-to-drm-080913/

We are too bored.

True dat

I'm sure many PC gamers will download illegal copies of Skyrim entirely because of the DRM steam requirement. Beats me why Bethesda can't do a disc check each time the game loads. I find it easier to keep a copy of the dvd than remember a steam account's details. If steam goes bankrupt one day my game is gone. If I get banned on steam for whatever legit but frowned upon reason that's it for Skyrim. If I can't remember my steam account details then that's it for Skyrim since you can only have one steam account.

If I were Bethesda I'd make a dvd you can't copy, and must have each time you load the game. Piracy problem solved and everyone's happy.

I was very hyped for the first half of 2011, but after seeing some of the design decisions it kinda died.

I'm still very much looking forward to playing it though.

Everyone worshipping the game and praising it (even though they haven't friggin' played it) will be disappointed.
Everyone being critical of the game, voicing disappointment at some of the confirmed features we've gotten, will probably end up content.

Such is life.

Your avatar amused me for about 10 minutes.

I can't understand the mentality of expecting the worst so you never get disapointed. I have a brother who's like that.

If I would go with that I'd end up thinking the game is horrible when i play it. I'd say my expectations are kind of realistic. I can see a good point in those that just don't read whats new on skyrim because they want to be blown away by it when they finaly get their hands on it. Altho i think its alot of fun reading speculating and imagining what Skyrim is going to be like.

It's a sad way to live. I feel sorry for those people. I'm going to love the game and not be disappointed at all. I know what these games provide and for me that's all that matters.

Meh,I agree still..
Like any new games it is like this.
But idont care what other think,i will still play skyrim alone and be so happy!
My dream game still.I dont know if i will still be on the forums then x) i mean,if everybody is just going to complain or something..
And have any elder scrolls game been bad? i wont be dissapointed

no dissapointment just SHEEr enjoyment

Oh, im telling you, the god-friggin-awesome graphics and the fact that spells are so much nicer now along with the new sixy interface is enough to make me spasm

"Do you think people are over excited? Are you?" You might be. I'm not though. :shrug: I can guarantee that I am going to play the hell out of this game even with the few changes I don't like too much.

Here's a fun idea.

I'm greatly anticipating this game. It looks amazing. I can't find any real complaints about the product as shown so far.

If I'm truly disappointed after playing it, I will find you and give you $10,000.

I love it, the more complicated and complex the better in most situations. Take a game like Sonic and compare it to hearts of iron, then try and tell me that Sonic takes more planning and thinking than HOI. When you have a game like Skyrim where you hypothetically charge into combat and click until you win, and compare it to a game like Daggerfall when you got your ass kicked if you tried that approach and didn't plan out "Well what if he is resistant to my attack?" alternative strategies and make yourself ready for the innumerable variables that could go wrong.

A quick example. In Oblivion i had to carry a backup weapon and repair equipment in case my primary broke or got rendered invalid. In Skyrim they took that out so i should in theory never have to worry about planning for that situation. Its not nearly as fun when i don't have to think two stages ahead of myself and solve problems that do not exist yet. I like that challenge, and i feel so good when somthing i planned for happens and i can use my contingency plan to counter it.

Hahaha? Alternative strategies in Daggerfall?

I'm sorry, but this "Morrowind/Daggerfall is more complex/fun" is just false.
Combat in Morrowind/Daggerfall was basically spamming the button and crossing your fingers that you'll roll a high enough number. Oh sometimes you have to "prepare an alternative strategy" by drinking a lot of potions and using some enchanted items.
That's it.

It's pretty ridiculous when people jump to conclusions like "no blocking? OMG THE GAME IS MINDLESS HACK AND SLASH". Yeah, spells, shouts, actual movement, power attacks, sprinting different weapons... yep, hack and slash.
It's also not like you need to build up on potions, poisons, improve your armor/weapon in town, get some food for buffs, get spells for different elemental weaknesses...
No, just push the button, there's no spellmaking, so the game is just a mindless action game :bonk: