PC players: Mouse+kb or pad?

Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:05 am

wii-mote + control mat.

Skywiim all the way !
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:41 pm

Why use a "drag and click tool" easy enough to use for babies and a device that is made for typing?

Fast and precise control over a character in 3D environment.
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:27 pm

Buy wireless k&m, then get a lap table for notebooks or just use something functionally similar, and you can get best of the two worlds. Oh, and consider buying Logitech. Not advertising, but they have an awesome solar-powered keyboard you don't have to charge at all and a set of mouses that work for a few years from one battery kit. And the receiver is universal, so you need only one for all of your devices, and is only 3 mm, so if you use a laptop, you don't even have to take it out. I have a mouse and a keyboard (not solar, pity), and I plug my laptop into the telly and play sitting on my couch. It's awesome (except for the telly, it's not as big as I'd want it to be :sadvaultboy: ).
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:06 am

Controller all the way, its obviously much simpler than a keyboard+mouse although I could just as easily use that.
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:03 am

Oh, and consider buying Logitech.


What he said. I'd definitely NOT recommend their audiosystems, but when it comes to keyboards and mice they are very good (and i tested a lot of brands).


OT: Keyboard and a good mouse. Controllers just don't have the precision i prefer/need for games...
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:24 am

Mouse and keyboard. It's what I have and what I've grown used to, no reason for me to change now. :shrug:
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:42 pm

Probably going to nab a controller. Just one of those things, really. I love my keyboard and mouse but I'm a lazy bastard so I'll be kicking back while I play. rofl
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:27 am

After literally decades of experience using a keyboard and mouse, there is simply no reason for me to ever touch a controller.
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:48 am

pad > mouse&keyboard
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:32 pm

Keyboard and mouse without exception.


Agree with you :)
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:16 am

Keyboard and mouse without exception.

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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:35 am

First Person with a controller does't fit for me.
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Tiffany Holmes
 
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:39 am

Mouse and Speedpad just like all the other games i play
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Iain Lamb
 
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Mouse and kb. I encourage you guys to buy a 5 buttons mouse for Skyrim, since dual wielding weapons and spells will need extra buttons for the left hand.
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:23 am

Powerglove.







If it's not supported, I'll use keyboard and mouse
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:24 pm

I would say Controller, Its comfterable and easy to use for me. I can barely play Morrowind for 10 minutes on my laptop because my hand hurts or cramps from it.
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:59 pm

Fast and precise control over a character in 3D environment.


The mouse is the most precise, it is better than a joystick, a joystick can get pretty close, but it takes much more practice, however, the mouse is operated by your whole hand while the joystick only assigns to one thumb( plus one click button), I usually use inverted aim and think of my stick as my characters head, if it presses forward my char looks down, pull the stick back and he looks up, just like a head attached to the neck.

But I can see ppl prefering the mouse, however, the keyboard is far from precise. sure there are more buttons to assign to hotkeys, but you also use far more fingers occupied with just moving the character back and forth and sideways, instead of just again only one thumb(the other thumb) on a controller(and that thumb also is used for another click button. With a movement stick on a controller you have endless "stages" of speed and acceleration for your character, if you only want to move a head one inch that is possible, with a keyboard you'll have to tap the button and it will either be a burts of full speed walking or toggled running forward, you dont really control the distance you are moving as precise as with a controller, usually it isnt a big deal, but if you are in an area where you'll need to watch it where you put your feet, it's easy to fall down or step in the wrong spot while playing with a keyboard, and you cant go snail speed if needed.

To me the keyboard is inferior in precision and pure efficiency, yes there are more buttons but I dont really need more buttons personally, my two thumbs controls all movement alone and covers two more actions with each click buttons on those sticks, and I can easily acces 4(6) more buttons and a 8 direction action plus click(9) control wheel with those thumbs, that leaves my other 4 fingers handling atleast one button each, like the triggers and such, which are also pressure sensitive, unlike the mouse buttons.
From what I can think of that gives me total movement control with two thumbs, and 19(21 actually) "click" buttons with a single action/function each without toggling anything.

Controlling your character from a keyboard takes atleast three fingers just for movement, and then you cant use those buttons for anything else, like jump or crouch, so its leaving you with two other fingers free on the keyboard, since your other hand is located on your mouse, and normally when using all those "extra" keys on the keyboard you will have to halt your characters movement in one way or another to move those fingers to press whatever other buttons you will need to use.

I used to play with mouse and keyboard and PC only, then I bought a xbox first, then a 360 and it took a long time to get equally good with a controller, and it is harder, but in the end it is much more efficient and enjoyable for gaming, the mouse is more precise, but it's a drag and click tool, it feels degrading in a way. Game controllers are produced for gaming and control only, mouse and keyboards are not, they can work pretty well, and once you get used to them its hard to consider another alternative, but they are not "ultimate and totally pro" like some seem to believe, if they were, then they'd come with consoles, and fighter pilots would use a mouse and keyboard like device to operate their aircrafts, not joysticks and attached buttons.
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:32 am

I recently purchased the http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/controllers/devices/wireless-gamepad-f710 for RAGE and it's very convenient; certainly it was precise enough for aiming and since most of the Skyrim devs play on console, I imagine a gamepad is going to be fine for Skyrim as well.

However, I was not accustomed to using a gamepad (the last one I used was for 8-bit NES), and after playing for about 30 minutes I started to experience cramping in my hands and fingers.

So I think I will return it to the store and stick to using http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/wireless-trackball-m570 + http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.221675100.

I usually game on the sofa with laptop connected to projector, so it's inconvenient to use a keyboard or traditional mouse with mousepad.
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:42 pm

I recently purchased the http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/controllers/devices/wireless-gamepad-f710 for RAGE and it's very convenient; certainly it was precise enough for aiming and since most of the Skyrim devs play on console, I imagine a gamepad is going to be fine for Skyrim as well.

However, I was not accustomed to using a gamepad (the last one I used was for 8-bit NES), and after playing for about 30 minutes I started to experience cramping in my hands and fingers.

So I think I will return it to the store and stick to using http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/wireless-trackball-m570 + http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.221675100.

I usually game on the sofa with laptop connected to projector, so it's inconvenient to use a keyboard or traditional mouse with mousepad.


No offense but if you get sore for using a controller you should prob keep it up to get some exercise for those fingers, or you are really playing with brute force, about to break that pad in pieces, haha.

I will prob use a 360 controller for most of the time when I play Skyrim, I will hook my pc up to my tv, but it will be my first time using the controller for a PC game, I used to bring this little "table" that I kept in my lap or on my tummy if in sofa or bed, it worked fine with the mouse and keyboard, I'd recommend it if you wanna stick to keyboard and mouse, you just need a flat piece of something that is big enough to hold both your keyboard and mouse, preferably light with and good surface for dragging the mouse.
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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:12 am

Keyboard and mouse for me!!! I have a controller but it's in a box somewhere as I only bought it for those games that get ported that don't have very good KB + M support. heh.
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:46 pm

Mouse and KB, been gaming like that since 99' or was it 00'?
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:45 pm

Why can't you slump back in your easy chair if you want? I can...and here's how. :)

I have my computer on a tv table near a recliner. I have a 15 ft. hdmi cable running to the TV. Then i have a wired keyboard on my lap and a mousepad on the arm of the chair for the mouse that's wired into the keyboard. It may not be pretty but it's all easily stashed away and does make it comfortable. I didn't think I'd be able to get used to K&M but I did and now I think I prefer it. I have a gamepad I can try when Skyrim comes too. Maybe you can make a setup like that? All I need now is the game.

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Post » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:26 am

I will try them both to see how they work out,and will choose then.
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Post » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:00 pm

I recently purchased the http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/controllers/devices/wireless-gamepad-f710 for RAGE and it's very convenient; certainly it was precise enough for aiming and since most of the Skyrim devs play on console, I imagine a gamepad is going to be fine for Skyrim as well.

However, I was not accustomed to using a gamepad (the last one I used was for 8-bit NES), and after playing for about 30 minutes I started to experience cramping in my hands and fingers.

So I think I will return it to the store and stick to using http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/wireless-trackball-m570 + http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.221675100.

I usually game on the sofa with laptop connected to projector, so it's inconvenient to use a keyboard or traditional mouse with mousepad.


I have that gamepad and wasn't able to get it to work with my Asus. Some kind of driver problem. I ended up getting the wired F510 and that worked fine. Your hands use different muscles for the gamepad. The soreness will fade away as those muscles get stronger. Mine did. I'll have to go through that again if I switch back from K&M.

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