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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:22 am

Love oblivion. What is it like? Would I like it?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:00 am

Fallout 3 is reasonably similar to Oblivion in gameplay structure.

Other titles differ quite a bit. But really it's hard for us to say if you would like it.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:59 am

Well Fallout 3 has that title "Oblivion with guns" so if you love TES IV and atleast like guns you'll love Fallout 3.
Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics different so much from Fallout 3 and New Vegas as they are turn based and use a constant third person view, those game also have a much slower pace about them, but even they still capture the magic of Fallout since they are its origins :fallout:

Others could give you a much better description of the games since it has been a while since I played them and I've really just started getting into Fallout 1
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:03 pm

The Fallout Series (besides Fallout 3 and Fallout: Tactics) is a much deeper RPG than the Elder Scrolss Series.

It also has a completely different history, taking place after a nuclear war with China in a 1950s retro-futuristic American wasteland.

So its possible that you will like it but it is also possible you will not. They're pretty cheap right now, you could buy the whole series while only selling about $60.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:32 pm

The Fallout Series (besides Fallout 3 and Fallout: Tactics) is a much deeper RPG than the Elder Scrolss Series.


This^
With Fallout games, the gameplay isn't going to be as EPIC! as it is in a TES game; but the story line and characters will make you think a lot more and, imo, the dialogue is written better in Fallout games. I would suggest starting with FO3 to help you transition from TES to Fallout, as Fallout 3 is kind of a mix of the two. If you like certain elements in Fallout 3, then move on to a more serious Fallout title like Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout: New Vegas.

Definitely give the Fallout series a try, who knows, it might just end up being your favorite videogame series of all time. It was for me.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:41 pm

The Fallout Series (besides Fallout 3 and Fallout: Tactics) is a much deeper RPG than the Elder Scrolss Series.



This ^

Fallout and Fallout 2 are great RPG. They are turned based.

Fallout Tactics is Tactical squad based game with a real time option.

Fallout 3 is "Oblivion with guns" and doesn't really fit well with the other Fallout games.

New Vegas is alot more like Fallout and Fallout 2, as in more focused on RPG and have alot of refrences to the first two.

Fallout is based on an ulternate timeline, where the 1950s mindset never went away. Best way to describe it IMO is: What the people of the 1950s though the future would be like, nuked to hell. World War 3 happened on October 23, 2077, lasting 2 hours. The people of the wasteland have moved on and started rebuilding new nations and ways of doing things. Fallout 3 being the only exception. Its about the people of the wasteland rebuilding and coming into contact with one another.. War, war never changes.

All the games take place long after the great war. Fallout takes place 84 year after and Fallout New Vegas takes place 204 years after.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:23 pm

Love oblivion. What is it like? Would I like it?
Probably. Though the best thing is likely to just watch a bit of it on Youtube to get the gist of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMq3Z3rR8

Its basically Oblivion gameplay with cosmetic changes & plot brought over from the Fallout series (1 & 2); So its not exactly Oblivion mechanics.
*Also, the default is First Person play (just like Oblivion).

Fallout is based on an ulternate timeline, where the 1950s mindset never went away. Best way to describe it IMO is: What the people of the 1950s though the future would be like, nuked to hell. World War 3 happened on October 23, 2077, lasting 2 hours. The people of the wasteland have moved on and started rebuilding new nations and ways of doing things. Fallout 3 being the only exception. Its about the people of the wasteland rebuilding and coming into contact with one another.. War, war never changes.

All the games take place long after the great war. Fallout takes place 84 year after and Fallout New Vegas takes place 204 years after.
Actually (eh... from my perspective), its not quite that (it is... but not quite). Its more than that, because if it was just a 2nd millennium retro-culture stuck in the 50's ~that would not cause Ghouls (or most of the other strangeness). Its more as if the cultural hopes and fears of that world at that time were made manifest as a brutal reality... Radiation DID have the potential to make you into a green icky monster, and technology was found to progress along the expected fantasy path... The pop 50's was not just in their head, it bent the laws of physics, chemistry, and SCIENCE!, such that the ray guns and mutagens could be created; Deathclaws created, FEV turning people into kooky looking green giants and mutants; Made it possible that from a vat of human and animal parts could merge mutated multi-head and limbed monsters. It was more than just a culturally altered reality.

It also should not be put to much scrutiny either; It was crafted as a GURPS campaign setting. People often say, "Anything goes, its Fallout" (or because "It's a game"); but that's not so of the first game; That game had a theme running through everything, and the game followed a kind of internal consistency to the madness. It should also be pointed out that there was not a whole lot of 50's anything that was not pre-war salvage.... Was there any pop 50's stereotype NPC in the game at all? (Best approximations IMO were Butch and Decker).

My take on the game was that it was set in the wrecked remains of a (once) 50's paradise; and that it was originally rather a bit like 'Post Apocalyptic squatters' in the remains of Disney Land... and they weren't singing "Its a Small World" and dressing like Mickey & Goofy. :shrug:
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:38 pm

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All good points. Fallout is more then retro-future 1950s, but for those that don't know what Fallout is, its simple to say its what the people of the 1950s thought the future would be like nuked to hell, but you are right, there is more to it then that.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:17 am

How do use guns? Are their swords too? And can I get it on ps3 for cheap?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:29 am

How do use guns?

Point at an enemy and pull the trigger.
Firearm mechanics work better in New Vegas though, since we get aim-down-sights, addons for weapons and different ammo types among other things.

Are their swords too?

There's the chinese officer sword in Fallout 3. Then there's stuff like the shishkebab, a lawnmower blade on fire. And in New Vegas, there's the bumper sword, made from scrap car parts, and a katana right? There's a katana in a Fallout 3 DLC as well. Other than that, there are loads of other melee weapons that aren't swords like... well, just have a http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Melee_weapons.

And can I get it on ps3 for cheap?

That is for someone else to answer since I don't own a PS3 and thus never look up prices. But I guess a quick search wouldn't give too bad results.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:40 am

How do use guns? Are their swords too? And can I get it on ps3 for cheap?


You can get Fallout 3 for $17 (or buy Game of the Year Edition for $21) and Fallout: New Vegas for $19 but the rest of the series is PC exclusive.

However if your computer can run this website than it can ran Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout: Tactics.

You can buy them in a bundle pack off of Steam or from other online sources.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:22 pm

You can get Fallout 3 for $17 (or buy Game of the Year Edition for $21) and Fallout: New Vegas for $19 but the rest of the series is PC exclusive.

However if your computer can run this website than it can ran Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout: Tactics.

You can buy them in a bundle pack off of Steam or from other online sources.



Cool. I don't own a computer. I'm using mobile Internet. Lol. Thanks I might check out fallout after I play skyrim of course.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:37 pm

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I very much agree with that. IMO Fallout 1 is more like a post-apocalyptic 1950's comic book; in style and in logic.

Artistically/Stylistically the colors and details are simple, and yet they stand out and are very distinct. Much like comic books of that era. whereas modern comics focus much more on complex and at times overwhelming detail on even very minute things.

Logically it follows the same vein of comics, in that [insert Macguffin here] can mutate or alter a person, and not just cause a slow painful death.

Caveat: I know that everyone loves Fallout 2 on here, but one of my biggest gripes of that game comes from the fact that they took these two elements and went too wild with it. I think that is why a lot of people feel that "anything goes" with fallout; because 2 really pushed the "what crazy things can we do and still have an explanation for it" idea almost to its breaking point.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:38 pm

I very much agree with that. IMO Fallout 1 is more like a post-apocalyptic 1950's comic book; in style and in logic.

Artistically/Stylistically the colors and details are simple, and yet they stand out and are very distinct. Much like comic books of that era. whereas modern comics focus much more on complex and at times overwhelming detail on even very minute things.

Logically it follows the same vein of comics, in that [insert Macguffin here] can mutate or alter a person, and not just cause a slow painful death.

Caveat: I know that everyone loves Fallout 2 on here, but one of my biggest gripes of that game comes from the fact that they took these two elements and went too wild with it. I think that is why a lot of people feel that "anything goes" with fallout; because 2 really pushed the "what crazy things can we do and still have an explanation for it" idea almost to its breaking point.


Well Technically all the "Wild and out there" stuff was just Easter eggs and jokes and not part of the "real" game story. However yeah, all the monty phython referances and pop culture stuff did have it fair share of "didn't like" its I didn't mind them so much.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:38 pm

Well Technically all the "Wild and out there" stuff was just Easter eggs and jokes and not part of the "real" game story. However yeah, all the monty phython referances and pop culture stuff did have it fair share of "didn't like" its I didn't mind them so much.


No, things like wanamingo's are really stupid to me. Just deathclaws 2.0 that are worse and have a worse background story.

New Reno is almost completely different stylistically than the rest of the game and stands out like a sore thumb.

the only "Easter egg" I find to too "out there" is the one where the chosen one goes back in time and breaks the water chip. It wouldnt bug me except for the fact that you get (a lot of) XP for it. The XP alone makes it a high-level event (none of the other Easter eggs gives you even half the amount of xp), and just creates a huge paradox/plot-hole.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:53 am

I can accept strange things in that world (perhaps as a result of the changed laws of reality), but ... IMO that stuff belongs in the deep wastelands, not in town. For me, it was actually 'Brain' and the Chess playing Scorpion that bothered me the most. I don't hate them, or feel irritated by them, but they just seem out of place in town. The wasteland was represented as a vast irradiated no-man's land with 'who knows what' could be out there now!?; And (technically) the player never knew if it was real, or hallucination, or a bit of both. Later games lost this IMO, and now its just ' It's Fallout, anything goes ~remember the star trek shuttle?'....

*Had the Megaton bomb been out in the dunes somewhere instead of the center of a town, I would have taken it more seriously (but I think that was no longer the intent or expectation :().

@OP Fallout is a split series now. There are Fallout 3 & New Vegas; and there are Fallout 1 & 2. These sets are very different, with different gameplay, and a different take on the setting. If you like RPG's you will like all of them. Fallout 1 & 2 will run on almost ANY PC built in the last 15 years (even a $10 junker in a thrift shop).

If you can't play, but are still interested, then you can watch a 'lets play' of the first two games.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1250914-super-mutants-and-the-fev/page__view__findpost__p__19066377
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:50 am

You will like FO3 and FONV. Granted they dotn have no where near the story/quest content as a TES game but still basically like TES twin brother who is not as built but a bit more quicker on the comebacks and is more bipolar/angry/depressed than the smiling TES brother. Granted these brothers also lived in different time frames...so go figure.

I do have a question, why is it that TEs is getting riped ont he story department when it has like BOOKs full of complete well thougth storys, well thought otu quests and i love FO to death but i have yet to see a quest line in FO that compared to the uniqueness and iminagetive as heck Oblivion's Assassin's and Thieves Guild quests line.....ya thats right i said it im rdy Flame On! lol =]
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:17 pm

*Had the Megaton bomb been out in the dunes somewhere instead of the center of a town, I would have taken it more seriously (but I think that was no longer the intent or expectation :().


I thought the bomb being located inside Megaton was fairly well explained. It may not be logical, but that is because a particular group that was involved in the town's founding certainly isn't logical. Its not a fault on the part of the writers.

Megaton came about when a small band of individuals came together and attempted to build a secure town. The stumbled upon the remains of a large plane that had crashed and created a large crater (with the undetotated bomb at its core). Within this crater, they found a group of people worshipping the bomb (The Children of Atom). They approached them and asked if they wanted to help provide assistance in the creation of a town they could all live safely in. The Children of Atom agreed on the condition that the town be centered around the bomb (due to their crazy zealot beliefs). The original group was extremely hesistant to do such a thing but they needed the manpower that the COA could provide (the COA makes up around half of megaton after all). In any case, they believed the bomb to be relatively safe and started construction, using the ruins of the plane to form houses and even a large defensive wall which enclosed the town.

A little later and viola, you have Megaton.

I see nothing wrong with the backstory personally. :shrug:

Now Lamplight on the other hand......
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:12 am

Sounds intriguing.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:19 pm

I try out fallout 3, loved it and now I'm a fan!
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