Missing LOD water at pont near Nagastani (off Blue Road) : IV

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:27 pm

PROBLEM: The pond just off Blue Road (the road from IC to Cheydinhal) near Nagastani ruin does not not display water at distance. Nor, I believe, does the pond at Vaermina's Shrine.

DETAILS: Some days ago I install several ULs new to me...including those that affect the area in question (Rolling Hills, Ancient Yews, etc.) Today I decided to remove those additions... I liked 'em well enough but they felt alien thrown in to a 1.6k hours play-through. At any rate, after uninstalling the ULs and various patches, running BOSS, rebuilding my Bashed Patch, and running TES4LODgen I decided to recheck a few areas and ensure all was OK. In the process of doing so I discovered that the ponds in question do not show water at LOD distance.

I at first assumed that the fault rested squarely with those added ULs or their removal. BUT...I have since visited that same spot on my secondary computer, which has its own Oblivion stall but not the extra ULs. To my amazement LOD water was absent there too!

Either LOD water has never shown in those two (or more?) spots and I've been amazingly lucky (or non-observance) and not noticed it during my two and a half years of playing Oblivion, or something snuck in on me and disabled it while I wasn't looking.

Here's my load-order. So far as I know it is the same as it was before adding (then removing) those ULs and patches. The only difference 'should' be that I decided to let BOSS place almost everything where in the past I had a good number of overrides.

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]
02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
03 TamRes.esm
04 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
05 CURP_Controller.esm
06 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.7]
07 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
08 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.4]
0A TamRes.esp
++ oc_darker_nights.esp
++ realWaters.esp
0B Idle Dialogue.esp
0C Distant Chapel Bells.esp
0D Rainbows.esp
0E WindowLightingSystem.esp
0F 1em_GiveAGift.esp [Version 1.2]
10 CityLights - ImperialCity.esp
11 PTFallingStars.esp
12 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.2]
13 PTRoamingNPCs.esp
14 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]
15 Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp [Version 1.8]
16 Lock Bash Omega.esp [Version 1.5]
17 Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0]
18 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.0]
19 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9]
1A Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]
1B BlackLuster.esp
1C Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03]
1D Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
1E Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
1F Harvest[Containers].esp
20 (DC) Kvatch Watch Towers.esp
21 Trade and Commerce.esp
22 300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp
23 delivery_job.esp [Version 1.2x]
24 EM_Packdonkeys.esp [Version 2.1]
25 exhSIPalacelodge.esp
26 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
27 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
28 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.11]
29 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
2A KvatchRising.esp
2B EiAmod.esp [Version 1.1]
++ EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp
2C LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
2D LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp
2E Mages Guild Quests.esp
2F Order of the Virtuous Blood Expanded v0.3.esp
30 Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
31 Skingrad Market 1.0.esp [Version 1.00]
32 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]
33 TheElderCouncil.esp
34 TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
35 TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp
36 (DC) The Pride of Wolfs Gate.esp
37 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6]
38 VOILA.esp
39 VOILA - Soldiers of Empire.esp
3A za_bankmod.esp
3B BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp [Version 1.0.1]
3C Knights.esp
3D Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]
3E The Lost Spires.esp
3F AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.31.COBL]
40 Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp [Version 2.2]
41 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
42 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.6.2]
43 Faregyl.esp [Version 2.0.5]
44 Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp [Version 2.0]
45 Feldscar.esp [Version 1.0.12]
46 JDNT_Brina Cross.esp
47 Vergayun.esp [Version 1.0.7]
48 Villages1.1.esp [Version 1.1c]
49 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
4A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
4B Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]
4C CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]
4D SkingradMarket-LostCoast patch.esp
4E KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp [Version 1.1]
4F xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3]
50 EtInArkay-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp
51 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7]
52 RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp [Version 1.3.4]
53 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
54 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
55 KragenirsDeathQuest-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.0]
56 NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 5.0.1]
57 ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
58 ImpeREALForts+BrinaCross Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
59 ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
5A West Roads.esp
5B Castle_Seaview.esp
5C CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp [Version 1.0]
5D bartholm.esp
5E bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]
5F Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
60 FortAkatoshRedux-NewRoads&Bridges patch.esp
61 Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp
62 NRB4+RR Patch.esp [Version 2.1]
63 FightersGuildContracts.esp
64 BlackScreenSneakFix.esp
65 CUO_MerchantsGuild_SAFE.esp
66 CUO_MerchantUpdate_SAFE.esp
67 CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp
68 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.2.1]
69 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
6A Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp [Version 3.0]
6B talkwithyourhands2.esp
6C Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
6D Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]
6E Duplicate_Item_Spell.esp
6F RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2]
70 Panzer_Kleidung_03.esp
71 WR Villages Addon.esp
72 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 5.5.3]
** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
** Cava Obscura - SI.esp
** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
73 Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp
74 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 3.02]
** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
75 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Is this a known issue? What are the causes? The fixes?

Thanks in advance!

-Decrepit-

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:17 pm

Those are both vanilla water bodies that exist above sea level. The game will not render LOD water above sea level. You need the LOD water planes I put together in order to fix this, and most of the ULs with water in them have them.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:01 pm

Those are both vanilla water bodies that exist above sea level. The game will not render LOD water above sea level. You need the LOD water planes I put together in order to fix this, and most of the ULs with water in them have them.

Thanks!

So, water's not been at those spots the whole time and I failed to notice? Embarrassing. I'll look up those water planes of yours. Nexus I assume?

-Decrepit-

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:06 pm

Yep, Nexus. It's just a resource though so you'd have to place them yourself in order to make it work. People asked for a vanilla ESP that placed them in all the vanilla bodies of water but that would have taken quite a bit of time.