Inconvenient fix for framerate drops near NPCs: reformat and

Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:38 pm

I did just this and now the game runs perfectly.

However, the downside here is that I really, really would rather have my copy of Windows 7 installed.

However, if anyone is interested in a permanent solution to the problem, this is the way to go.

System specs:

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 4850e
Video card: Nvidia Geforce 8600GT
RAM: 2gb DDR2
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Maeva
 
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:29 am

You could have simply split a 30gb partition off, installed XP on that partition, and then run the win7 repair utility to fix the bootmanager.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:23 pm

I did just this and now the game runs perfectly.

However, the downside here is that I really, really would rather have my copy of Windows 7 installed.

However, if anyone is interested in a permanent solution to the problem, this is the way to go.

System specs:

CPU: AMD Athlon X2 4850e
Video card: Nvidia Geforce 8600GT
RAM: 2gb DDR2


What was wrong with the dll fix?
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:13 am

The dll fix is the same thing just much simpler.

XP does not support DX10/11 so it can not use DX9 emulation. The problem with Vista/W7+DX10/11 capable cards. (As far as I understand it. Correct me if I've gotten it wrong.)
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:18 am

What was wrong with the dll fix?


I did this way before the .dll fix came out. Haven't had the motivation to do a wipe and then give that a shot on Windows 7.

You could have simply split a 30gb partition off, installed XP on that partition, and then run the win7 repair utility to fix the bootmanager.


I know I could have done this, but dual-booting has always seemed messy to me. I like as few partitions as possible. Ideally, one for the OS, and one to backup files that I want to save during reformats.

EDIT: At any rate, the point of my post is to inform people that running the game on Windows XP is pretty much flawless, and can serve as an alternative to the .dll fix.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:14 am

seriously..... you have to reformate to fix the framerate issue? this is [censored]
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:25 am

seriously..... you have to reformate to fix the framerate issue? this is [censored]


No, you don't -have- to. There's also a .dll fix available.

Switching back to Windows XP is just one alternative.

And don't get so upset; I'm sure Obsidian will patch this issue right away once they've figured it out.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:09 pm

I know I could have done this, but dual-booting has always seemed messy to me. I like as few partitions as possible. Ideally, one for the OS, and one to backup files that I want to save during reformats.

EDIT: At any rate, the point of my post is to inform people that running the game on Windows XP is pretty much flawless, and can serve as an alternative to the .dll fix.
Personally I'd just call it overkill, and I'm good at doing things either to break or going into overkill mode, when something seriously tinks me off to no end. I run a Win7(x64), WinXP(64/32) triple boot setup, it's not hard you just need to decide what you're going to run and why. Win7 I run everything modern(as in the last 3 years). I keep my XP partitions, one for work(x64), and the other for gaming. Since I enjoy a pile of older games that aren't 100% flawless running with Win7 like BG2(and the tutu mod to convert BG1 over).

Once you're set with the game/work or game/game setup. All you have to do then is decide which OS you'll do your day-to-day stuff on and go from there(prolly win7(. The other one will never have anything else other than games installed on it.

I'd also suggest some type of VM ware, but most of those don't support DirectX. OGL in some form? Yes. DX no.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:56 am

Personally I'd just call it overkill, and I'm good at doing things either to break or going into overkill mode, when something seriously tinks me off to no end. I run a Win7(x64), WinXP(64/32) triple boot setup, it's not hard you just need to decide what you're going to run and why. Win7 I run everything modern(as in the last 3 years). I keep my XP partitions, one for work(x64), and the other for gaming. Since I enjoy a pile of older games that aren't 100% flawless running with Win7 like BG2(and the tutu mod to convert BG1 over).

Once you're set with the game/work or game/game setup. All you have to do then is decide which OS you'll do your day-to-day stuff on and go from there(prolly win7(. The other one will never have anything else other than games installed on it.

I'd also suggest some type of VM ware, but most of those don't support DirectX. OGL in some form? Yes. DX no.


Like I said, I know full-well the advantages of dual-booting, and I'm no stranger to it.

I just have some sort of obsessive-compulsive behavior when it comes to partitioning up my drive. Irrational? Maybe. But I can't help that.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:58 pm

I just have some sort of obsessive-compulsive behavior when it comes to partitioning up my drive. Irrational? Maybe. But I can't help that.
Break it! Smash it! Go nuts! I used to format my old WinXP install every 3mo like clockwork, got good at it too. So irrational? I know where you're coming from.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:17 pm

Break it! Smash it! Go nuts! I used to format my old WinXP install every 3mo like clockwork, got good at it too. So irrational? I know where you're coming from.


I'm no stranger to frequent reformats either. :P

It's kind of ridiculous, but I guess it is how it is.

At any rate, before I go back to Windows 7, I'm just going to wait patiently for an official fix on the issue from Obsidian (not that I don't trust the .dll fix that's available, it's just, like I said, obsessive-compulsive behavior.)

Luckily, I don't own any applications or games at the moment that require anything more than Windows XP, so I can wait it out and enjoy New Vegas until then. :P
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:24 pm

A little bit of OCD makes the world go round. And round, and wait damn it! Round! :D

Really I think there's a deeper issue relating to steam as well. Just in my own experience on Win7, whenever steam is running it causes my oblivion install to CTD with no error message, however running it with steam and it's related junk removed it runs fine. Without busting out a debugger, I can't say what's going on. But I'm going to hazard it has something to do with the way it hooks into the system as a ring2 device.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:04 am

A little bit of OCD makes the world go round. And round, and wait damn it! Round! :D

Really I think there's a deeper issue relating to steam as well. Just in my own experience on Win7, whenever steam is running it causes my oblivion install to CTD with no error message, however running it with steam and it's related junk removed it runs fine. Without busting out a debugger, I can't say what's going on. But I'm going to hazard it has something to do with the way it hooks into the system as a ring2 device.


Have you considered that it might be something wrong with the way the community overlay plays with the game, too? Because I could see that as a culprit.

Wow, this topic really got derailed fast. And I derailed it myself!
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:47 pm

Man I totally sympathise with the partition thing. I could never dual boot, it'd be a fly buzzing round my head every time I turned the machine on. It's just too messy.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:32 pm

Have you considered that it might be something wrong with the way the community overlay plays with the game, too? Because I could see that as a culprit.

Wow, this topic really got derailed fast. And I derailed it myself!


Uh...I did some not so legal tinkering in an attempt to fix the world famous stutter bug. So yeah, it's not Steam.
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:10 pm

Uh...I did some not so legal tinkering in an attempt to fix the world famous stutter bug. So yeah, it's not Steam.


I was actually replying to Mashiki's mention of problems with Oblivion, which is why I said the topic had derailed. :P
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Post » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:10 am

I was actually replying to Mashiki's mention of problems with Oblivion, which is why I said the topic had derailed. :P


Yeah but Mashiki was saying that he thinks New Vegas's problems might be steam related because he had problems with Steam and Oblivion. I'm saying that's definitely not the issue here.
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