Spamming loads of leather bracers and now I can craft Omega Dragonbone Armor? Lolfail?

It's an Elder Scrolls game.. name one skill that's HARD to master?

It seems I've kind of screwed myself by maxing out smithing. I'm now a level 20 and dragons are a lot harder to kill than they were. I just finished killing one and it took so much more work than any of the others. I'm thinking going up like 10 levels with nothing but smithing skill isn't a very good idea lol

Interesting point. Dragons seem like the most scaled enemies so going full swing smithing early on may not be the greatest idea especially if you can't even acquire the raw materials to make the better armors.

Still kinda strange that there's no lack of procedural steps to make heavier armors though just spam spam away.

I haven't even tried smithing yet. Ironically I'm an ORC Warrior and spend most of my time cooking. :frog:

Pickpocketing

I'm not mastering ANY craft stuff until I hit the end-game.

Otherwise, you just make the enemies harder.

It's another stupid off-shoot of the Oblivion leveling system where you can gimp yourself if you JUMP too much.

Too easy. I have gained many levels just by pickpocketing. It makes fighting dragons a bit difficult...

Simply because you spammed doesn't make it too easy, it simply means you found a way to do it faster.

I only smith when I have to make a quick buck or upgrade armor/weapons and I'm progressing at a nice playable rate.

It all depends on how you play....some people rubber-banded their controls for Stealth in Oblivion...if thats how YOU want to play...you'll get what results come.

I'm pretty darn powerful, I'm into style. I wear the armor that looks good. Don't care about the stats. As long as my nord looks sixy killing stuff

"I found a way to exploit the skill to raise it fast. Now it's too easy to raise that skill while using said exploit."

I would argue with this.

Using alchemy, enchanting, and crafting to their maximum usefulness (100 skill rating/perked out to usefulness), it is easily possible to craft a set of gear, weapons, and accessories that allow a completely untrained character to surpass a skill 100 Heavy Armour, Block, One-hand fighter in ability. Just make sure to prepare fortify enchant potions, and use those to prepare fortify alchemy gear. Wash rinse repeat about 3-5 times, and you wind up with perfect enchanting. Then enchant fortify smithing gear/fortify alcehmy gear. Prepare fortify smithing and fortify enchant potions. Use gear and fortify smithing potions to craft "best" gear. Then use fortify enchant potions to enchant gear with the perfect fortify armour/weapon enchants on all associated gear (or other useful enchants). Then watch as you blow away the normal "mundane" character away as you wield your gear that boosts you to 150 heavy armour, with +200% damage increases to one handers.

The items in the world simply don't compare to the craftable items at high levels. Of course, good luck getting all the items prepared to craft this set of gear,

This. This isn't an MMO where you spend hours grinding the skill, it's not designed for that. It's designed so that you level up and get rewarded based on what you do while you play the game. The game will "break" if you exploit it and become way to easy and not fun.

yeah, the exploit is known, no one forces you to use it, so don't if you don't want to, if you do, deal with the consequences, my warrior has a lot of dragon bones laying about and dawnbreak (the awesome sword of epicness) so I'll likely up his smithing soon to put him where I feel he should be, my other characters, not so much.

It seems like it would be simple enough to add in a system of diminishing returns with the leveling system. In your example, you get less and less experience towards your next smithing level each time you craft the same item. For lockpicking, you'll have to pick harder locks, you can't just pick novice locks all day and gain levels because you'll just get less and less experience each time you do it.

This might be relatively simple to mod in when the toolkit comes out...

Is the only way to raise pickpocketing by actually pickpocketing?
Beside being trained?

So if I wanna have a normal playing experience and a normal progression of my character just don't powerlevel smithing and instead do it naturally.


Doesn't seem to hard. XD

I heard orcs are pretty good cooks, some might even call them the best.

Smithing needs to be tweaked a bit. Crafting higher level items should reward more experience than crafting lower level items. By a certain point, crafting lower level items should simply stop rewarding experience.

I see what you did there.

Why would you make smithing harder?


I mean, who wants a tedious grind?

Leveling smithing is... hardly the most exciting thing there is.

Well unless you buy the resources you have to go find it first, I personally only bought a few things from the vendors, but to level smithing I went out and HARVESTED iron/hides/glass ore

this - once you have the skill to unlock the next tier of crafting, the previous tier should give significantly less experience. If it's more than 1 tier below, you get no experience.

and for the people who say this isn't an MMO grindfest, it pretty much is. I've crafted myself a full set of orcish armor, and at that point i have no real reason to make more - but it certainly wasn't enough skill ups to get me to ebony. So, I have to mindlessly grind out items just to raise my skill to get to the next tier.

Smithing is something I'm going to be doing throughout this character's career, but for now it's only high enough so that she can take anyting she finds and raise it up to Superior quality. I've only bought smithing supplies here and there - I like to mine and hunt. I carry a pickaxe around in all my travels.

:rofl: Too funny. I totally did that with one of my Char's. Ahhh, I love TES... Makes me warm inside.
Anyone seen my Skooma Pipe? :tes: