Skyrim is a fail

Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:17 pm

like any game it has flaws and bad design choices but i think overall its a great success.
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Emma
 
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:05 pm

Rather, the issue i face is that even when i tweaked for maximum defense i STILL die far too much, far more than my pure damage oriented character. If they beefed armor across the board it would be fine, but at the moment lower level armor seems to be almost useless.

I mean, you need to get to level 50 block just to defend against magick attacks, tell me that's any fun. "Oh yeah, I'm a tank, i can kill anything!...unless it uses magicka, right, then i die in 3 hits. Hmm. And there are spell-users in every dungeon? Huh? I die all the time even on Adept difficulty? Huh?"
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:55 pm

Why are there so many posts in this? this guy is obviously an idiot.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:38 pm

I am approaching 20 hours strategically. I have strategically gotten myself out from in front of the game to do things like sleep, eat, drink, communicate with real people, Forum doesn't count because ur still not out from in front of a flashing box, talk to women(not ur in game wife), and lastly exercise! Therefore I am not as burned out of this game as the OP seems to be.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:33 pm

I assume for a moment that the OP - and the many others who have start posts like this - aren't doing it to get a little bit of attention.

So what gives? You don't like the game. You can say that in five words (see? . . . I just did). Why go on and on about it? Why start a thread on the Skyrim forum telling everyone how much you hate the game? Why make negative comments about people who like the game? Really negative, derogatory comments? Why put so much time and effort into this. What do you trying to accomplish?

Perhaps you . . .

(1) . . . think if you post enough negative comments about the game, Bethesda will suddenly say: "Whoa . . . that guy's a freakin' genius! I mean, hell, we've been making games wrong for over twenty damn years! Where the hell has he been? He should be our leader, our dragonborn! What the hell? Maybe he's the Messiah? Let's pull the game now - right now - and fix all the horrible defects like, you know, how the player can't ride a dragon. For hell's sake, how did we overlook that?"

(2) . . . are lonely, desperately lonely. Lonely like a leper. And you're unemployed. So you're a lonely, unemployed leper. You have lots of time to lurk on forums on like this and take out your dissatisfaction with your life, you wife, your neighbors who insist upon putting their garbage in your cans, your dog who only likes you becasue you put food in his bowl once a day . . . all your unhappiness and loneliness is vented like a custom shock spell on Skyrim.

(3) . . . are thirteen years old. You can't drive, can't date - well, you can, but you're hopelessly in love with a seventeen year old cheerleader who keeps calling you "Eddie" . . . and your name is Kyle. This is funny for you. Hilarious. Like making fart noises in class and bulling around the eleven year olds. You can tell all friends how you dissed Skyrim while you're putting on fake tatoos so you'll look older.

(4) . . . are severely disappointed in Skyrim. Damn Bethesda to hell and back! The last good TES game they made was Morrowind! Everything else was a cheap knockoff of some other idiot video game that only the young kids play. And, of course, Bethesda dummied it down. Way down. Morrowind, now that was a man's game. Why, using alchemy, you could complete the main quest in like sixteen minutes, leaving you pleanty of time to read the books and memorize lore. Who wants to actually play a video game? Why the hell would Bethesda change that!! Sure, the graphics svcked so bad that the Better Bodies mod was made, like, IMMEDIATELY but so what? Time has passed and the ashland-tinted glasses through which you observe the world are completely unforgiving on the subject of spears.

(5) . . . just like to start fights. Forums are the only place you can do it without getting your glasses broke.

(6) . . . still think there's a secret club for people who hate all video games. It's like the cool people's club high school . . . only secret. Really secret.

Harsh? Perhaps. But I can't figure out why you don't just go play another game? Seriously?


Best.Post.Ever.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:48 pm

New thread needs to be made.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:44 am

I love how the responses to the OP average out to "I liked it, so you must be stupid, don't know how to play the game, or just shouldn't bother with Elder Scrolls games."
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:17 am

... sometimes I even doubt I'm playing the same game as most people in this forum...
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:31 am

People telling him to go play a different game are the people who have not played a significant enough number of games, without submitting to rabid fanboyism, to know when a game has flaws. I admit, for the first 40-60 hours i played, i had an incredible amount of fun, and there's still lots of fun to be had! The fact isn't that you CAN'T have fun, but that when you are having fun, flaws that detract from that fun become all the more noticeable.

For example, i've noticed the balancing issues he's mentioned myself. When your character can get creamed by basic enemies just because he chose a certain playstyle, it means the game was badly balanced. If i have to spam health potions to keep myself alive against fights that an equally leveled character can destroy in seconds, there is a problem with balance. And on the other end of the spectrum, if i can kill normally difficult enemies with no challenge, and there aren't any places that ARE challenging, there is a problem with balance.

Skyrim seems to be filled with these problems. The sad part is, it probably could have been fixed fairly easily if they had not started out on the wrong foot. Additionally and sadly, it seems that this comes back to a flawed leveled AI system. If you knew that you could go to certain places and have an easier fight in exchange for worse loot, you would be happy to go there, because you know that's the point you're at. But if you know that the next place you go into will have enemies that will either be as easy as all the others or destroy you as bad as all the others, it destroys immersion and breaks up the gameplay.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:46 pm

Totally disagree.

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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:24 pm

Also, if you disagree you are either playing a style that is avoiding this problem, you are tweaking the difficulty, you're lying to yourself, or you're one of the rare-ish people that dont mind playing on master and taking 10 minutes to kill a single bandit chief.

Multiple people have noticed these problems...just because you haven't seen them yourself, doesn't mean they don't exist. You just haven't seen them yet.

oops, wrong post XD
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:07 pm

Harsh? Perhaps. But I can't figure out why you don't just go play another game? Seriously?


Perhaps because the OP wanted a TES RPG for his/her $60 and didn't get a quality one? GOD FORBID someone give an opinion these forums that goes against the all mighty Bethesda and the best game in the universe. :rolleyes:

Whether you know it or not there are quite a few unhappy people with the game. They spend their money for a TES RPG and didn't get one. They have the right as paying customers to voice their opinion.

Just because you are blinded by Bethesda's awe doesn't mean everyone is.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:31 pm

The thing is mate, is that your focusing on specializing too much. How about making a cross class character? Because most of the flaws of one class can be made up by the strengths of another.
Also the bugs issue, hopefully bethesda will hop on these forums. Check out whats wrong and work on fixing it. But yeah, in my opinion you should hop back no it and make a balanced character
its where I personally have the most fun, but hey its your decision :tops:
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:11 am

I haven't had any of those problems :shrug:. Although I haven't played a mage yet, my archer/swordsman is doing fine, none of the problems you listed, and the immersion is great. I once dropped a whole bunch of loot by an orc, and he said "You dump your trash all over the place and people call us savages." It was awesome.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:05 pm

I don't know why I am still stupid enough to read every thread stating how bad this awesome game is... :snoring:
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:58 pm

Skyrim is the greatest game ever made.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:43 am

Also, if you disagree you are either playing a style that is avoiding this problem, you are tweaking the difficulty, you're lying to yourself, or you're one of the rare-ish people that dont mind playing on master and taking 10 minutes to kill a single bandit chief.

Multiple people have noticed these problems...just because you haven't seen them yourself, doesn't mean they don't exist. You just haven't seen them yet.

oops, wrong post XD



Mercer was the toughest guy I've fought so far, but that was at a low level and I was playing a stealthy character. I've had no problem playing a stealthy character, it just takes patience. I've been using the default difficulty too and haven't had to change it once. I haven't played a mage though and never have.

Sure the games got problems, but so did the others before. The problems aren't big enough to make the game a failure though.

I was letdown by the Thieves Guild. The first few quest were awesome and then it turned into some dungeon crawling game. I also don't like the DB armor and I wish there was an age slider, first person horse riding, better UI system.... However, that doesn't make it a fail. All these problems will be fixed anyway.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:59 pm

I assume for a moment that the OP - and the many others who have start posts like this - aren't doing it to get a little bit of attention.

So what gives? You don't like the game. You can say that in five words (see? . . . I just did). Why go on and on about it? Why start a thread on the Skyrim forum telling everyone how much you hate the game? Why make negative comments about people who like the game? Really negative, derogatory comments? Why put so much time and effort into this. What do you trying to accomplish?

Perhaps you . . .

(1) . . . think if you post enough negative comments about the game, Bethesda will suddenly say: "Whoa . . . that guy's a freakin' genius! I mean, hell, we've been making games wrong for over twenty damn years! Where the hell has he been? He should be our leader, our dragonborn! What the hell? Maybe he's the Messiah? Let's pull the game now - right now - and fix all the horrible defects like, you know, how the player can't ride a dragon. For hell's sake, how did we overlook that?"

(2) . . . are lonely, desperately lonely. Lonely like a leper. And you're unemployed. So you're a lonely, unemployed leper. You have lots of time to lurk on forums on like this and take out your dissatisfaction with your life, you wife, your neighbors who insist upon putting their garbage in your cans, your dog who only likes you becasue you put food in his bowl once a day . . . all your unhappiness and loneliness is vented like a custom shock spell on Skyrim.

(3) . . . are thirteen years old. You can't drive, can't date - well, you can, but you're hopelessly in love with a seventeen year old cheerleader who keeps calling you "Eddie" . . . and your name is Kyle. This is funny for you. Hilarious. Like making fart noises in class and bulling around the eleven year olds. You can tell all friends how you dissed Skyrim while you're putting on fake tatoos so you'll look older.

(4) . . . are severely disappointed in Skyrim. Damn Bethesda to hell and back! The last good TES game they made was Morrowind! Everything else was a cheap knockoff of some other idiot video game that only the young kids play. And, of course, Bethesda dummied it down. Way down. Morrowind, now that was a man's game. Why, using alchemy, you could complete the main quest in like sixteen minutes, leaving you pleanty of time to read the books and memorize lore. Who wants to actually play a video game? Why the hell would Bethesda change that!! Sure, the graphics svcked so bad that the Better Bodies mod was made, like, IMMEDIATELY but so what? Time has passed and the ashland-tinted glasses through which you observe the world are completely unforgiving on the subject of spears.

(5) . . . just like to start fights. Forums are the only place you can do it without getting your glasses broke.

(6) . . . still think there's a secret club for people who hate all video games. It's like the cool people's club high school . . . only secret. Really secret.

Harsh? Perhaps. But I can't figure out why you don't just go play another game? Seriously?


I really, really like your post Sir.. +1
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:43 pm

I love how the responses to the OP average out to "I liked it, so you must be stupid, don't know how to play the game, or just shouldn't bother with Elder Scrolls games."


It's always been like this on these forums. You cant' give any constructive criticism without these people calling you names or saying you svck. I really wish the mods would clean up posts like that.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:10 pm

Im sorry m8 but you dont have a point... really...
for a game of this size, magnitude and complexity it has incredible low amount of bugs, the AI is better than ever (even tho people say high lvl sneaking is over the top, dunno havnt reach high levels with sneak yet), there are some pathing issues, but even those are few.

as for balance, most of the complaints are just people having a problem learning to use stuff thats all, there are obviously issues with most skills/builds, but hardly gamebreaking at all, magic is pretty good if played properly., people complaining about destruction usually dont use it well.

as for the awckwards events like the coin stealing thing... well thereso nly so much mechanics and code/script that can be put into a game this big dont you think? they could have changed all the theft coding for that particular case I guess... but meh is all the rouble worth it just for that tiny weeny detail?
THAT broke your immerssion? really? I gues being the best most detailed living world ever built on any rpg has no bearing because you stole from a npc you were doing a shackedown :(

best rpg ever,

You are the one who dont have a point. Being the best, most detailed living world ever build? This is a game, games are supposed to have balance and game play. Game play consist of challenge and reward.
FIND ME CHALLENGE IN SKYRIM AND REWARD, I will find you 10 flaws.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:50 pm

The real problems are simply bugs, and Bethesda is already currently fixing them. Other than that, those are just subjective view based on their own personal "definitions" on how things should be going. There's no ending to this, as there's no limit to wanting.
And OP, if you ever lived in a country full of dark principles practitioners, you'll know that only Jesus's name that can somehow block curses. Not shield.

Just be gratefull with Skyrim people. Fixes are coming.

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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:34 pm

It's always been like this on these forums. You cant' give any constructive criticism without these people calling you names or saying you svck. I really wish the mods would clean up posts like that.

Contrary to popular belief, mods are not omniscient beings who are capable of reading through every one of the thousands of posts made on this forum, in real time. We try to skim through threads we think are going to cause problems, and even then - if you factor in all the sub-forums on this site - there's far more of those than any of us would ever be able to read through in a day.

It really comes down to this - if you don't report it, you can't very well expect us to magically wander in and fix everything. ;)

Anyway, post limit.

Given the nature of this thread, I think it's time for everyone to take a breather, gain some perspective, and not make another of these threads until everyone's ready to discuss differences of opinion in the rational and civil manner we've come to expect from this community.
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