Hey Bethesda...

Ive been a fan of the series since FO3 but always been curious to play since i seen the first games on PC in magazines way back (s.t.a.l.k.e.r). So with that said im a fan who has all the games on console and i enjoy them all. Only problem i have that i honestly dont like at all is the fact that you limit the games level up process. its only like 30 er something like that before the DLCs are available. Then the game lets you level up higher. that svcks. At times i try to sit back and wonder why you developed the game like that and try to come up with ways to justify the limited level up process...
but it all says "more money" for us fans to spend on DLC...cool but not cool (thats just my opinion)

What i mean is i dont think you should have limits in that way where we fans have to wait until the next DLC release just to level up further to level 60 (?)...thats pretty bad. again i love the game but i think you should take the level up system a bit deeper (if im saying this right) like Skyrim. You can go up to level 99 but theres a lot you have to do to branch out and get level ups and perks. i guess what im saying is you should run with that level up system that Skyrim has instead of limiting the consoles first release to 30 or 60....whats worse is in fallout Vegas is once i hit that 30 level mark (i think was where it stops) my kills were meant for nothing and im just killing and not getting anything unlocked or leveling up....meanwhile i see all these cool perks to have and i cant get them because i cant go any higher in my level that i maxed out to. I think that right there is bad and it made me stop playing...i hated to do that. The DLC stories are cool im sure but i didnt care to buy them except one because of that level up issue. it just wasnt cool to me..

I think you should leave the next fallout game open to go as high as 99 but the enemies and area conditions are no walk in the park if you are at a certain low level and dont have certain perks unlocked to deal with them effectively...The DLC extras should be added with perks you get or whatever if you complete certain new missions. side stories etc. Balance that part out of you characters progress and weapons upgrade..

And lastly i really think bethesda you should really stop being so scared of letting us wastlanders have and build up our own vehicles in the waste land! lol. All those tastey looking half used Vehicles look sweet to repair and drive around in. I envy those enemies that fly in at random with their Tech helicopters and hover jets....i think you should have a level up branch you have to get up to also in order to build vehicles to ride around in....fast travel is needed yes but adjust that part with the new vehicle feature..

Well sorry about the novel but i wanted to get this across at an official site because i look foward to the next FO game and i want to see certain changes of new added in

Fight on

-DTC-

That is not why there is a level limit, there is a limit for attempted balance, if you could level up to over 100 levels than you would be the god compared to even the most powerful NPC.

All of your skills will have long since have reached 100 and you would have all of the perks.

I think the ability to drive vehicles in a Fallout game is a HORRIBLE idea. I like it just the way it is. If they add the use of vehicles, then the game would become something based off of "The Road Warrior". No thank you.

i dont think you understood what i was asking of Bethesda...

I wasnt asking to level up over 100. No. I have all the FO games and apparently i have skyrim and im very aware that you can go up to level 81. Mind you thats without having to by DLCs or wait on a game of the year or special edition with ALL the DLCs on the game and extra levels to access (the extra levels that should have been available through the first purchase)

when i mentioned about the perks to clear that up i meant yourlevel is so low capped in Fallout vegas that you cant get to atleast 75% of the perks that are there. it was like i leveled up way too fast to 32 i think it was and capped out where i couldnt access not even half the list below...I was saying if they were going to do it like that then dont have those perks showing there period. Have them show up on screen only if you purchased the DLC with the new mission or side story that those perks would be useful in. And of course the perks will become accessable once you hit those new Extra levels that came with the DLC. just that simple

Having access to god level would be [censored] and thats not what i was implying. If thats the case then Skyrim would be as easy as pie because your level can go pretty high and the strings of your perks are long in that game...that game is too much of a challenge even in a high level status. this i know....in short the next Fallout should be that way. Let the degree of levels match up exactly with the amount of perks shown. If they cant be accessed then dont show them there. thats all im saying.

Wait you want to have ALL the perks on one guy? XD

I don't understand what it is you're asking for.

You want to go to level 99 or what?

nevermind i thought i was reaching out to actual bethesda developers here...

@SneakyPreacher:

and so a game with the theme of a "post apocolyptic" torn down world from war is nothing like the Road warrior and beyond thunderdome already right? Ok..
you got me there buddy....Soo horrible of an idea ?_?

@Andaius

If thats what both my huge explanations said to you...then eh ok no argument there buddy i zip my lips on that XD


@gabriel77dan

oh as for level 99? i mentioned it twice...^_-

peace everyone

i have no more to talk about on the subject here



Thanks Bethesda developers in general though. I like forward to another Fallout Adventure!

I wouldn't mind the ability to rent a pack brahmin or purchase a small scooter-like vehicle which would have both limited condition and fuel - it could basically be something you buy for a very short-term boost in travel speed, and would degrade very quickly.

You seem offended that we're all NOT developers for Bethesda...lol

Indeed, also the reason you DON'T have access to al lthe perks at the same time is because you don't MEET THE REQUIREMENTS of the darkened out perks. You could go all cheaty and give yourself 10/100 on ever stat and skill and I'm sure you'll then see all the perks listed as available. BTW level 30 was the max 'nilla NV cap the same as FO3 full DLC cap. With all the DLC's in NV you cap out at lvl 50 you'll pretty much max out all your skills by that time anyway.

Since you've said you have every game than you've played the originals, right?

In the originals you could play any character you want but not every character you want.

In NV they tried to make it as much like that as possible (ultimately failed with the DLCs adding to the level cap but still...).

They are trying to create some balance (not much) which is why you can only get half of the perks that are available by level 30.

nah not really. that was sarcasm actually^^




This i do know. again i have Fallout 3 and Vegas. and the Game of the year version of FO3. i know what you are talking about with the "darkened parts" that i cant get to with the proper level up. you have to understand in FV i ran through that game clean asap and the highest i went was 30 and what was left was a ton of perks i couldnt get to "which is the darkened parts" because i cant go any higher than what i was allowed. only time i got a bit more of those perks is when i got that DLC i think called Dead money. or lost hearts? cant remember. it let my level go a lil higher so i could GET those perks unreachable that i saw was there and eben that was still limited to maybe 6 out of the 40 er so i saw there. Im saying it would be cool if the set up was like skyrim where yes everything is darkened (the perks) but you can go up enough levels in the game where you dont have to wait on a DLC to buy in order to get to those "darkened parts". Supposed i dont have the cash to buy a DLC? thats what im saying. I still like the series but they need to step that part up IMO. Im a console user and not Pc player btw.






Technically not in that way i was saying. I meant every Fallout game for "console". I never played the ones before those. Only saw them in mags. And i understand what you mean as far as attempted on balance but i still think they should have pushed the bar on the level up so all the perks that are faded out (which are a ton ive seen when i capped at 30) are all reachable at somepoint in the game without the DLC to be bought.. understand what im saying? i rather have the system set up where i can actually level up in game progress to 99 overtime and can get to those faded out perks instead of thinking "Oh damn im at 30...thats as far as i can go...now i have to wait for a new DLC so i can go to 50 so i can get the REST of the perks that are in my reach". get me? if i dont buy the DLCs then i cant get the perks is what my gripe is. Skyrim isnt like that. Everything is equally spread out. you still can go on up to lvl 81 and get the rest of the perks. BUT! yes i know you have different character types so in that respect thats different from FO. but exclude that part and just keep that far length of level up you can go then im happy with that because i know i wont have to wait to buy a DLC just to level up more and get those perks ...

hope i didnt confuse you with that man

All perks from the 'nilla game are available, what yo udidn't have is the right combo of Stats and skills. Just look at the darkened out perks and you'll see what you need. The Level design was meant for you not to be able to get all the perks with one guy.

Yeah, this. You're supposed to play the game more than one play-through. Because you seriously only do like 30% of the game if you only do it with one character. You can build your character differently than the first one, putting points in Stats and Skills you didn't with the first one, then you can take perks you couldn't with the first one, but you also can't pick some of the perks you could with the first one. Then there's all quests you can finish in a different way to get a different outcome and a different ending, as well as what faction you side with. So really, you are not meant to be able to get EVERYTHING with one character (getting all skills to 100, buying implants to get the stats 10/10/10/10/10/10/10, achieving all the perks that are in the game)

The higher you allow the level limit then you need to do one of the following:

* Increase the amount of content that provides a challenge as you go up
* Reduce the effect of actually going up a level to ensure that existing content doesn't become too easy.

Option 1 is expensive and option 2 can get ridiculous.

Basically we all should just forget about the level limit. Its arbitrary anyway based on the levelling system and a level 99 may not actually be better than a level 20 on a different scale.