Remarkable Similarities Between (Stephen King's) "The St

Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:17 am

that actually isn't an accident, King is a big fan of b-movies. He even wrote/directed this one horror movie called the scarecrow (or something) but was basicly some kid gets killed by these jerks so he comes back as a scare crow and kills them all. there were like 3 sequels and they all were terrible.



Oh, I've seen 'em all. I didn't know that about King though. My brother is a huge fan of low budget tripe with bad actors and worse screenplays, but once in a while there is a gem amongst his recommendations so I sit through most of them to see if I get to it. Most painful recent King adaptation I painfully, ached my way through was The Mist.

Bad... just, bad. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:06 pm

Who cares about the film adaptations. The books are baller.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:43 am

I agree that religion in fiction books can easily kill the story, but The Stand just would'nt have worked out at all without it.
Coming from an atheist btw, I don't usually mind religion in books, unless it can be avoided.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:35 am

LOL @ raider, just what I was thinking lol.


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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:51 am

Haha... awesome thread Im reading the stand right now and considered the similarities myself.

Im about halfway through, mother abagail has just killed three chickens and fought off the horde of weasels.

epic too say the least...

reading the way the characters scavenge things each town they come across has totally wet my apetite for buying FNV.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:40 am

I've kind of gotten over reading his books any more any ways, they all kind of have the same ending any more (except for the end of teh dark tower series which was freakin epic) and its true that there hasn't been a good stephan king adaptation in a while. but even so there have been so many that were good: in addition to the already mentioned there was Cristine and IT, there are few (if none at all) writers who have had so many of their books adapted into movies which then became classics.

*on topic, I think most of the simularities are simply due to the fact that the stand and NV are both post apocolyptic and in the same area. there might be a few that were intentional (the crusifxes imo)
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:17 am

Who cares about the film adaptations. The books are baller.

Like I said, religious undertones in the books are lavished throughout and it becomes tedious after a while. At least for me. I prefer James Herbert or Clive Barker for my horror. They're less Christian-centric, less preachy. :shrug: IMO
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:43 am

I've kind of gotten over reading his books any more any ways, they all kind of have the same ending any more (except for the end of teh dark tower series which was freakin epic) and its true that there hasn't been a good stephan king adaptation in a while. but even so there have been so many that were good: in addition to the already mentioned there was Cristine and IT, there are few (if none at all) writers who have had so many of their books adapted into movies which then became classics.

*on topic, I think most of the simularities are simply due to the fact that the stand and NV are both post apocolyptic and in the same area. there might be a few that were intentional (the crusifxes imo)


I'm sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative but I will have to vehemently disagree that the endings are all the same. That's the cool thing with King, you don't know what's going to happen because he will kill ANYONE.

With the charactarizations of too much religious self righteousness and predictable endings, I could swear you guys have been reading Dean Koontz. Did someone maybe just slap some King book covers on some of Mr Koontz's work? :lol:
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:47 am

A DLC to Boulder Colorado might convince some.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:14 am

Seen the movie series many times on Syfy an yea memories of The Stand passed when I first saw previews for New Vegas
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:21 pm

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative but I will have to vehemently disagree that the endings are all the same. That's the cool thing with King, you don't know what's going to happen because he will kill ANYONE.



true, he doesn't follow the cliche where the main charecter lives to the end no matter what (mostly since he doesn't use just a few set main charecters) but the ending have been fairly repetative. you read under the dome yet? on the top of my head I can think of five books/movies that ended with aliens (spoiler if your currently reading some of these books): under the dome, IT, Dreamcatcher, Tommy knockers. and maximum overdrive (which was a movie but not a book as I recall.)
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:57 am

I don't think the similarities are all that striking. Both are fairly generic post-apocalyptic settings. Not a bad thing if it's executed well, as both are.

I do suspect that Stephen King would love the atmosphere of the game, though, based on The Stand and the Dark Tower series.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:22 am

What a great thread, m-o-o-n, that spells great!

As an avid SK fan, I would love to draw as many parallels as possible between The Stand and FNV. I've only played about 12 hours and haven't seen any specific references, but I'll be watching extra closely from now on.

As to the subject of film adaptations, I think the only author that rivals King for sheer volume would be Ian Fleming (James Bond). There are plenty of excellent "SK films," including Carrie, The Dead Zone, Shawshank and Christine. I recommend all of those to any horror/sci-fi fans. I can't say that I've ever appreciated a TV movie version of a King novel. Salem's Lot, The Shining, It and even The Stand - I was sorely disappointed with all of them. King is quite acerbic and raunchy (two things I love about FNV btw); these qualities don't translate well to network TV.

Lastly, Maximum Overdrive was an adaptation of a short story published in Night Shift, named Trucks.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:28 am

Don't be surprised if they copied ideas fromt he book, people stealing other peoples ideas happen all the in this cuttthroat industry. For more proof google zynga and how they stole ideas.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:17 am

Im surprised nobody has mentioned the Dark Tower series by Stephen King because the moment you hear of Victor from goodspring you should notice the simularities to Andy the Messenger Robot. In book 5 of the Dark Tower series there is Andy who watches everyone and patrols around talking to the country folk. Also nobody knows where Andy came from *whispers* like Victor. Lets also not forget Mr.House cannot be Randall Flagg because Randall is a dark magician from the Dark Tower series who changes his name and travels through time as the ageless stranger.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:08 am

Mmmmmm, I suppose you can posit a few similarities, but not Flagg with any character in the game. Maybe, loosely, the Burned Man.

Randal Flagg is a recurring character in numerous King novels. He seems to be the right hand man of the penultimate cosmic bad guy. His name, face, even his memories may change (to an extent), but the Walking Dude is always bad news.

Although he seems to jibe pretty well with his role as Hell's Herald, there are snippets and teases in various books that Flagg is not entirely a creature of free will, that he may even be destined to failure and frustration (damned in other words), and that on some level he is aware of it.

I've always found the character very compelling and interesting. Much like the Devil, while you love to hate him, sometimes it's hard not to sympathize with him.

Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name...
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:13 am

Mmmmmm, I suppose you can posit a few similarities, but not Flagg with any character in the game. Maybe, loosely, the Burned Man.

Randal Flagg is a recurring character in numerous King novels. He seems to be the right hand man of the penultimate cosmic bad guy. His name, face, even his memories may change (to an extent), but the Walking Dude is always bad news.

Although he seems to jibe pretty well with his role as Hell's Herald, there are snippets and teases in various books that Flagg is not entirely a creature of free will, that he may even be destined to failure and frustration (damned in other words), and that on some level he is aware of it.

I've always found the character very compelling and interesting. Much like the Devil, while you love to hate him, sometimes it's hard not to sympathize with him.

Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name...
Oh what's troublin' you is the nature of my game...


Sympathy for the Devil lyrics, nice touch, nice post lol.

And yea, I meant that he just vvery loosely resembles House, but even more closely follows Caesar, in some ways.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:12 am

Trash.

I found a dead woman in a shack in the Nuclear Testing Facility named Trash.

There's a vital character in The Stand named Trashcan Man... commonly called Trashy, or Trash.
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