» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:39 pm The Orma, Yerpest, and Horwalli are all tribes and races of men which should be added to the list of races on this wiki. The Orma, Yerpest, and Horwalli are tribes dating from the First Era. There is an elevated occurrence of congenital blindness in the Orma tribe, more specifically completely lacking eyes, and such individuals are said to be masters of their other senses. The Orma, Yerpest, and Horwalli were humans. They, along with the Kothringi, did not survive the outbreak of the Knahaten Flu and they may have not been around long before that as the Kothringi were the only humans to persist for long in Black Marsh. (2920, The Last Year of the First Era) (Sourced from "The Elder Scrolls Wiki")
Each race(please correct me if i am wrong, as they may have merely been just human tribes, not races) should receive their own page.
Not done. Sounds like fanfic. The ES Wiki is not a reliable source. rpeh ?T?C?E? 10:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
"In additional [sic] to the reptilian Argonians, who are today Black Marsh's most visible denizen, there were once tribes of men – Kothringi, Orma, Yerpest, Horwalli — and tribes of mer — the Barsaebic Ayleids and the Cantemiric Velothi — and even a tribe who may have been related to the Khajiit of Elsweyr, the vulpine Lilmothiit. Some were sent to Black Marsh as refugees or prisoners, others settled along the coastal waterways and adapted to its strange and usually insalubrious environment."(In game book) The Kothringi and the Lilmothiit are both considered in lore, but the other bolded races are not. They all hail from Black Marsh. I believe I have found several new and maybe extinct races. These races are not fan fiction, as they were referred to by the in game book, a Pocket Guide to the Empire, 3rd Edition/Argonia.
Sounds to me they are nothing more than tribes of Nedic people. Just like the Barsaebic Ayelids were Wild Elves and the Cantemiric Velothi were Chimer. No mystery here. -- kertaw48 13:05, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Fair Enough, but the Kothringi were a tribal race from Black Marsh with differing physical descriptions than other human races. As described above, the Orma have drastically different physical traits than say, an Imperial. They may have been related to the Nedes, but i think they are everything as much as their own race as the Kothringi are. I'm sure you have read the Pocket Guide to The Empire/Argonia, and the book refers to several tribes of men "In additional to the reptilian Argonians, who are today Black Marsh's most visible denizen, there were once tribes of men – Kothringi, Orma, Yerpest, Horwalli..." Because of their own unique cultures and physical descriptions, I think they could be considered their own races, and not simply different tribes of Nedic men. (if not their own races, then maybe have a Tribe page be set up, naming and describing all known indigenous tribes of Tamriel as well as all other non-indigenous tribes that we know of.) Thank you for the two previous replies, let's figure this out.
Fine, they receive one-word mentions in one book. There's nothing to say about them. rpeh ?T?C?E? 22:53, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok, no need to come off as closed minded. I just wanted to help the Wiki in any way I can. Lore is lore, whether it is short or not, but what do I know? It's not like cannonical, written lore found in game can be considered good enough to be on this Wiki.
Each race(please correct me if i am wrong, as they may have merely been just human tribes, not races) should receive their own page.
Not done. Sounds like fanfic. The ES Wiki is not a reliable source. rpeh ?T?C?E? 10:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
"In additional [sic] to the reptilian Argonians, who are today Black Marsh's most visible denizen, there were once tribes of men – Kothringi, Orma, Yerpest, Horwalli — and tribes of mer — the Barsaebic Ayleids and the Cantemiric Velothi — and even a tribe who may have been related to the Khajiit of Elsweyr, the vulpine Lilmothiit. Some were sent to Black Marsh as refugees or prisoners, others settled along the coastal waterways and adapted to its strange and usually insalubrious environment."(In game book) The Kothringi and the Lilmothiit are both considered in lore, but the other bolded races are not. They all hail from Black Marsh. I believe I have found several new and maybe extinct races. These races are not fan fiction, as they were referred to by the in game book, a Pocket Guide to the Empire, 3rd Edition/Argonia.
Sounds to me they are nothing more than tribes of Nedic people. Just like the Barsaebic Ayelids were Wild Elves and the Cantemiric Velothi were Chimer. No mystery here. -- kertaw48 13:05, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Fair Enough, but the Kothringi were a tribal race from Black Marsh with differing physical descriptions than other human races. As described above, the Orma have drastically different physical traits than say, an Imperial. They may have been related to the Nedes, but i think they are everything as much as their own race as the Kothringi are. I'm sure you have read the Pocket Guide to The Empire/Argonia, and the book refers to several tribes of men "In additional to the reptilian Argonians, who are today Black Marsh's most visible denizen, there were once tribes of men – Kothringi, Orma, Yerpest, Horwalli..." Because of their own unique cultures and physical descriptions, I think they could be considered their own races, and not simply different tribes of Nedic men. (if not their own races, then maybe have a Tribe page be set up, naming and describing all known indigenous tribes of Tamriel as well as all other non-indigenous tribes that we know of.) Thank you for the two previous replies, let's figure this out.
Fine, they receive one-word mentions in one book. There's nothing to say about them. rpeh ?T?C?E? 22:53, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Ok, no need to come off as closed minded. I just wanted to help the Wiki in any way I can. Lore is lore, whether it is short or not, but what do I know? It's not like cannonical, written lore found in game can be considered good enough to be on this Wiki.
