Since Skyrim came out we finally have confirmation that mantling does exist and is in Bethesda's canon instead of just Kirkbridian Canon.



In Knights of the Nine the CoC mantled Pelinal, then later in Shivering Isles the CoC mantled Sheogorath. What I want to know is, does the CoC's previous mantling of Pelinal combine with his mantling of Sheogorath?

We know the CoC is Sheogorath as evidenced by Skyrim, but is the CoC/Sheogorath mantel hybrid also a CoC/Sheogorath/Pelinal mantel hybrid as well?

I havent seen any acknowledgement that the KotN were even resurrecred during the 3rd era.

Where did you see Mantling existed in Skyrim?

(I'm not questioning your facts, I'm just curious as for where they came from haha )

Sheogorath in Skyrim is obviously the CoC.

He make some obvious references to it .

Mantling heroes works a bit differently than mantling gods, because most heroes are dead by the time they're mantled. You walked like Pelenial until you became... the pelenialine (?) and then you-pelenial became Sheogorath & Sheogorath became you. This probably made Pelenial stop being Lorkhan.

Also: its possible that, just like the CoC wasn't neccessarily the head of the fighters and mages guild, he may not have been both Sheo and finished the KotN.

I always assumed large story DLC was treated like expansions were.

I.E you did them.

Has there ever really been a clear policy on that?

Well looking back on past expansions I.E. Tribunal, Bloodmoon, and Shivering Isles all being treated as having been done, well at least the MQ of each of those, I don't see why story DLC wouldn't be counted also since DLC is just smaller expansions.


I mean I don't expect the CoC had those like 10 houses you get via the other DLC or anything, but a story based DLC such a KON seems like it would be considered to have happened

Happened? Yes. Completed by the CoC? Maybe not. Tribunal's plot has been referrenced a few times, but I don't recall anyone ever saying "Nerevarine killed Almalexia." Instead, it was just 'The Tribunal died / disappeared'

I could be completely wrong.

Then again, nobody ever believed Almalexia to be dead after you told them as the Nerevarine, the same goes for Sotha Sil... There could have been years between the deaths of the Tribunal members and the acceptance of those things by the Dunmer people. Meaning they might not hold the Nerevarine directly responsible for it.

Considering Tribunal's MQ was was part of the 7th vision of the 7 visions I would assume it was The Neravarine who did it considering it was his/her destiny.

Who else but the Nerevarine could have had the importance to satisfactorily been the one to kill Almalexia? Besides, it's simply better from the narrative standpoint to have her killed by the reincarnation of her husband who she may or may not have helped murder.

Knights of the Nine, on the other hand, would probably be just fine with someone other than the Champion of Cyrodiil doing the questline. Same goes for Bloodmoon not needing the Nerevarine, I think.

Nobody could have done it, but that doesn't mean the Dunmer people know that.



To quote the prophecy part of the prophecy

" Seventh Trial: His mercy frees the cursed false gods,Binds the broken, redeems the mad.


One Destiny: He speaks the law for Veloth's people. He speaks for their land, and names them great. "

Frees the cursed false gods, now that definitely happened. It doesn't say anything about killing Almalexia. Now again, the Nerevarine did that. It's the only reason Almalexia will even talk to you, so the Tribunal MQ couldn't have been done by anybody else. However the last sentence is equally important. He speaks the law for Veloth's people. He speaks for their land, and names them great.

The Nerevarine never spoke the law for Veloth's people, the Nerevarine never made the Dunmer great... So obviously despite what Azura might claim,the entire prophecy has not yet been fulfilled.