This is probably the stupidest post I've ever read.

You're trying to say that I'm a spoiled gamer from the current generation that doesn't appreciate games like Skyrim as "towering achievements" because I didn't have to be stuck with old 2D adventure games where you had to type in your actions, or games where you didn't even have a picture - you just had a description of what was in front of you and the option to type something like "Turn East."

Well, guess what? I did! I had those games! I lived those games for the majority of my life! I didn't get a good gaming rig until roughly six years ago! I didn't get a PS3 until last year! All these new, flashy games? They're pretty damn new to me. And you know what? For as GOOD as Skyrim is - it's not as groundbreaking as Arena was. It's not as groundbreaking as Morrowind was. It's about as groundbreaking as Oblivion was, which is to say, not groundbreaking at all.

I'll say this one last time
Skyrim is a fantastic game, and I really love it. I'm going to put a lot of hours into it. BUT: it is not a game-changing game that will alter the course of video games. It's a pretty standard, cookie cutter Open-World-RPG. It has been done before.

Bugs are common and quite obvious, there are certain AI flaws, and graphically, it's not what I expected. This game is far from perfect.

That said, it's still the joint-best RPG I've ever played (along with Final Fantasy IX), and after 55 hours of gameplay I'm still utterly in love with it. So meh.

Go tell that to the RPG codex and let me know what kind of response you receive. :tongue:

I hate threads about this subject. Everyone needs to stop whining

Cheers

haha i don't even notice the whiners here too much, seriously these obviously have no clue how to get into the game so they get mad at it :hubbahubba: :hubbahubba: :hubbahubba:

It's an amazing game but having played BG2 + ToB a couple years ago I think BG2 is definitely better

What do you expect? This is the Age of Entitlement. No matter how amazing something is it will still be torn to shreds over any and all perceived flaws.

I agree that Skyrim is incredible, and I look at games 10 years ago and am amazed at how far they've come. Just remember that some people are very high maintenance, ignore them, and move on. Nothing will make you lose faith in people like video game forums or CNN article comments.

the op knows what he is talking about!

I somewhat agree with the OP.

I think Skyrim is a very nice game and a worthy successor of all previous TES games. I am thoroughly enjoying every hour I spend in Skyrim. Sure there are some bugs here and there, but knowing Bethesda I am pretty sure they will get patched soon. The game offers way too many options for me to think about getting bored at one time. I am actually pretty shocked to see so much complaints on these here forums but I realize it makes sense. Most of the names I see writing up complaints are the same names I see in all those threads about 'ultimate max. builds'. Someone at some point figured out a way to abuse the ingame crafting system to become very powerful very quickly, and a lot of people immediately copy the procedure in their own games. Ofcourse this game becomes boring when you can pretty much one-shot everything you encounter on Master difficulty. Those gamers just don't realize that they themselves are ruining their own game experience. About 80% of all the livestreams I have watched on twitch.tv all feature this same 'one-shot-warrior build', and they are a pain to watch.

All those complaints about this game are in the same category as all those posts from gamers who have this urge to post how they have completed the game within 48 hours after the game was launched.

Conclusion, if you want a challenging game, don't look for ultimate builds on the forums but rather just play the game yourself and experiment. Have some character, have some fun. I'm playing they way I want, experimenting left and right, have perks distributed among like 5 or 6 different schools of magic. Sure I get killed often, on expert level, but failing is part of the game. Makes it that much more rewarding when you finally clear that cave/dungeon after 2 hours and 20 deaths.

Thank you Bethesda for another great installment in the TES series. Guaranteed to keep me busy for the next two years.

So true. What is even more hilarious, or sad?, is that most of these comments nobody even thinks twice about, but will post it as if they are really concerned. So it really is just randomly generated, nonsensical words to put out to the world to get a reaction, and most of the time it works.

What caves? Out of the 50 or so quests I've gotten in Skyrim, I've only had around 5 actually involve a cave or dungeon. Most of them deal with fetching pelts, hunting animals, carrying messages, gathering material, or just doing something outdoors.

Man I only WISH there were more quests involving caves and dungeons.

You certainly fire up easily considering all that happened was a differing of opinion.

You still can't recognise the difference between my perspective and your own. And you wont for quite a number of years I suspect.
As I said before, you're 18. You haven't actually grown up yet. So I fail to see how you could have grown up with any of those games. They're simple a part of your child hood.

When you reply to this, do attempt to keep the childish insults to a minimum. They do nothing to further your case.

I find it hard to believe someone would play the game for 15 hours a day, racking up 150+ hours of gameplay, then complain that they are losing interest like it's the games fault.

I refuse to believe a Human Being that is mentally healthy would do that. That's not possible for an actual human brain to come to that conclusion, in my opinion.

Also, of the 50 or so quests I've had, only about 3 of them have "held my hand". The rest have given me no map markers and barely any clues at all on how to complete them.

From what I've seen, Skyrim actually makes Morrowind look like a game made for babies. Skyrim quests are friggin "hard" to solve.

So you played 150+ hours? I guess it's a good game then.

I didn't even need 3 hours to see the flaws of FF XIII and just give up... I like some game in my games

Yeah, 15hrs a day for a week and a bit straight is pretty damned enthralling if you ask me...

Why is it that people are so unable to accept people have other opinions than themselves?

People who like Skyrim are not stupid or immature, even if the game is less complex than the earlier TES titles.
People who complain are not trolls or whining. They usually have a real issue with the problem they present.

Of course the forum will be more filled with complaining posts. People who like it have little reason to post. People who have issues needs to post them in hopes that it might get addressed.

If you feel the game is the best thing ever, then good for you!
That doesn't mean that everyone have to agree.

No matter if you're on the Yay! or Nay! side, calling people stupid because their opinion is different than yours is, well, stupid.

I'm done with this conversation now, you're too thick skulled to see anything beyond what you want to see. It's too bad, because if you would just accept the fact that you aren't the savior of gaming humanity, the protector of all that's old and good, you'd find out that some of us gamers from the current generation aren't high-maintenance, graphics-loving [censored] who cry and moan when we don't get a Call of Duty game every year. It's too bad, because if you'd just open up your eyes and look around you'd see that there are still some of us in this current generation that truly appreciate video games. I could care less about graphics, voice acting, etc. I care about story and gameplay. I hate to bring up King's Quest again, but I hold all of those games very near and dear to me because of their amazing gameplay and stories.

Oh well, I guess you can keep living with your blinders on. You're just slowly growing into that guy who complains when "those kids play their damn music too loud!"

(Edit: and by the way - you don't hit a particular age where you've "grown up." I could easily argue that I'm "grown up" because I'm an advlt in the eyes of the law - I could also argue that you haven't "grown up" yet. It's an irrelevant term. I spent the majority of my childhood (I'm thinking ages 6-13?) playing old school games. I grew up with them.

Hmm, I don't know how old you think I am, but I've a feeling you're wrong.

But, you completely miss the point.
Which pretty much proves my point.

Nobody [censored] cares about your opinions you asees. You like it you play it. You hate it you don't play it.

This thread isn't going so well as most threads that start out complaining about complainers don't.

And it has turned into a Morrowind vs Skyrim thread and we have plenty of those threads in our "TES series" section where such things belong. You may join in one of those open threads.