Lorkhan is alive? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:18 am

SPOILER TURN BACK NOW IF YOU HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE MAIN QUEST OF SKYRIM

LAST CHANCE.

ok so when i went to the hall of shor thingy,the people there metioned that Shor which is lorkhans nordic name told them not to attack alduin so doe's this mean Lorkhan is still about? this is awesome news maybe we can see him in the future games/dlc.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:02 pm

Shor is the nordic interpretation of Lorkhan.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:21 am

Also Shor is dead according to Nordic mythology. Sovngarde is for dead people, after all.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:00 pm

Also Shor is dead according to Nordic mythology. Sovngarde is for dead people, after all.

Hes dead according to all mythology.But he can't be alive or dead it dosen't make sense hes tes version of god.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:26 pm

Hes dead according to all mythology.But he can't be alive or dead it dosen't make sense hes tes version of god.

...What?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:52 am

don't you get it? you are shor (probably) I mean shor isn't there when i stepped in, and all the nords are like talk to those dudes you saw in the scroll vision thing, and all the sudden i get to wage war on aludin. Seems like they couldn't fight because shor told them to stop, i walk in and they offer to fight with me...

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:26 am

I had the feeling the Dovahkiin was a mortal incarnation of Shor.

*cracks knuckles* Good thing my MQ character is going to bring back the bloody warlord side back.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:00 am

I'm really not so sure about the Dovahkiin = Shor thing. It might explain how you killed Alduin (Sovngarde is your realm. Your dual-cast lightningbolt stunlock assault was only a small portion of your offense against the dragon god of time), but I think if you were Shor, and the heroes / Tsun realized it, they'd make a much bigger deal out of it. More than a subtle implication, at least. The Nords are straightforward rebellious people.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:02 am

Really, I think the Nords are almost used to incarnations of Shor running about.

Also during the Late Merethic Era the legendary immortal hero, warrior, sorceror, and king variously known as Pelinal Whitestrake, Harrald Hairy Breeks, Ysmir, Hans the Fox, etc., wandered Tamriel, gathering armies, conquering lands, ruling, then abandoning his kingdoms to wander again.

I tend to think that these are all different avatars (Pelinal and Wulfharth are clearly individuals), and remarkably human ones at that.

Nowadays it seems like we take it for granted that every PC is a Shezarrine.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:54 am

Which has managed to transform being a god into something almost boring.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:52 am

The effect of man is to dilute divinity into mundanity.

It's not very glamourous. At least Vehk and Ayem looked cool when we met them. If I met myself on the road, I wouldn't think much of it.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:19 am

I don't particularly like the idea. It only really fits in Skyrim.

The Hero is just an RPG staple. We don't need to wink at it overly much, even though there have been five of them now.

The effect of man is to dilute divinity into mundanity.

Good point, ancestors and giants and all. No wonder the Altmer want it to stop and Alduin is pressing reset. Who knows where it's headed?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:04 am

You're onto something, hymantar. I could easily see the divines, and possibly by extension the Thalmor, wants man removed. If they keep making divinity into mundanity, then what's divine? Hrmm..Mundus = Mundane, perhaps?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:10 am

Wasn't that the point of the whole project? The eight are worshiped by humans are pretty statist. Besides, there's movement in the other direction as well.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:23 pm

Either way, I see it as Shor's plan to break the line between the two. Though, I prefer the movement of Mortality into Divinity.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:55 am

Lorkhan = Bethesda Softworks :shifty:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:49 pm

The Valiant Souls in Sovngarde actually explicitly state why you don't see Shor. They might be lying, but that's a different argument.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:39 pm

The Valiant Souls in Sovngarde actually explicitly state why you don't see Shor. They might be lying, but that's a different argument.

I must have missed that bit of dialogue, care to elaborate?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:25 pm

I must have missed that bit of dialogue, care to elaborate?

Not at all. *scurries off to an earlier save*

*comes back*

Ahem:

Shor's high seat stands empty; his mien is too bright for mortal eyes. --- Generic "Hero of Sovngarde" line

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:31 pm

Lorkhan = Bethesda Softworks :shifty:

That would mean Bethesda has no heart!

hmy:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:04 am

You're onto something, hymantar. I could easily see the divines, and possibly by extension the Thalmor, wants man removed. If they keep making divinity into mundanity, then what's divine? Hrmm..Mundus = Mundane, perhaps?

Mundus=mundane=earthly=nirnly=down to Nirn.

Yeah, I just figured that out.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:54 am

That would mean Bethesda has no heart!

hmy:

Their heart is the heart of the world, for one is made to satisfy another.